Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 19:04:06 -0500
From: Timothy Heppell
To: LED ZEPPELIN
Subject: P/P Australian Radio interview (long)
Excerpts from radio interview on the Australian JJJ network, 17/11/94.
Ian Rogerson with guests Jimmy Page and Robert Plant
I've mostly typed out the totally useless, non informational stuff that I found
funny, don't ask me why...
Ian: Welcome back to Australia guys
Page: Thanks very much
Plant: Speak for yourself
Ian: ..and when we come back in a few moments time we'll be delving into that
Plant: I told you he could string a sentence together.
Ian: why, did I look completely incompetant earlier on?
Plant: You...mind you, you had breasts earlier.
Ian: ...I guess more than anything you two would have to be long term friends,
Plant: We're doing good today
Ian: What do you mean, you're doing good today?
Plant: Well we are!
Ian: How long have you guys known each other?
Plant: I remember getting to Jimmy's and he wasn't home, he was in London doing
a session and he had a delectable American girlfriend, who opened the door
wearing very little more than just a sort of..half a kimono, and I was a
northern lad with me suitcase strapped up and all my clothes falling out
and I thought...I'd like to stay around in this environment ..it's pretty
Ian: ..and what made you arrive at Jimmy's place?
Plant: British Rail
Plant: I had nowhere else to go. I was living at Terry Reeves house, the guy who
should have had the job, who Jimmy wanted in the first place... his father was
a tractor salesman in Cambridge and [to Jimmy] you remember his dad was a real
pain (Jimmy: was he?) yeah he sells a mean tractor...
[some stuff about the band forming, a story about Howlin' Wolf, psycadelic rock,
Band of Joy and Yardbirds, but nothing new]
Ian: ..so '72 you were out here and we actually got a fax through with one of
Plant: not some damages is it?
Ian: no its called-
Plant: it must be a bill for some chairs
Ian: "Rock band: The Led Zeppelin".. oh there it is- have a look at that..I'm
sorry I wish I could show it to our listening audience here at the moment...
Plant: (reading)[anouncer's newsreel type voice] "Stomping room only at the
Festival Hall" Good god look! those are my jeans I'm wearing now! naah its-
Page: There's the double neck I'm still playing now, literally.
[talk turns to No Quarter]
Ian: Were you always close all the way through that period of time even after
Led Zeppelin finished up or was it...
Plant: No we were respectfully at a distance I think
Page: [giggles] .. [pause] ahh sorry I was just reading this article
[Battle of evermore]
Ian: I love...it's an amazing instrument the hurdy gurdy isn't it?
Page: yeah...certainly the way Nigel Eaton plays it..he's made some CD's of his
own you know, definitely worth checking out...so many different tones out
Plant: His latest CD is called Whirling Pope Joan [i think]
Ian: you were saying earlier that you had a project to do together..ah
Plant: Should we be flippant or should we be serious...should we put the cloaks
on and sort of ...
Ian: Turn into gurus again?
Plant: ah..great musicians yes.
Ian: Ok fair enough, we'll be flippant.
Plant: No! Don't do that!..we were so lucky to find such an array of talent in
England ..so cheaply
Ian: You had Porl Thomson from The Cure
Page: hmm hmm
Plant: He wasn't cheap.
Page: Hossam Ramzy from the Egyptians...he wasn't cheap.
Plant: no he's certainly not!
Ian: Who were the really expensive ones...they were them?
Plant: ahh .. well Jimmy was the most expensive
Page: Well naturally
Plant: ..and our management are a bit expensive as well...well they're more
wide than expensive .. expensive widoes.. can you play anything like
Ian: Anything you want
Plant: yeah, 99 by Keith.
Ian: ahh yeah i was just thinking
Plant: Is there anything wrong with your nose?
Ian: I'm sorry I have terrible hay fever
Plant: It's dropping off
Page: I used to have that in 1972.
Plant: ..and then he was arrested
Ian: and i think "these guys are going around the world on an interview tour",
why do that to yourselves?
Plant: It's the quickest way to Argentina from Japan
Ian: Why were you going to Argentina then, Robert?
Plant: I wanna go home
Ian: We also got the chance to see a big 35mm movie that you made...is this
gonna be released?
Plant: Yeah..ah well it's coming out on Australian TV about December the 10th or
something like that? um it's all jok...I mean we gotta joke cos we're so fed up
with being serious about it ... but the thing is, it's quite an achievement
to watch you try and listen to me and look for your cigarettes,
Plant: ah, it's quite an achievement to ah ..haha got you there
Ian: I'm a dead guy
Plant: ..to do this, it's hard enough to walk and chew gum, so really, to
actually get this together, and the most amazing thing was that there was
such an amazing will from everybody...that normally when you do a big
deal, thing, it requires rehearsals and serious analysis of the thing,
but it had it's own momentum, it was really..wasn't it great?
Plant: and um the Egyptians, everybody had got their own idea to add to it...
Page: they warmed to the cause
Plant: yeah so like when you played Friends, just at the beginning of Friends
there's a violin part, and then you hear that flute, and the guys just
said one day, in their broken English, "We think we can improve this song
by giving you an introduction-"
Page: ..an introduction they'd written for the song..worked on it and came in
Ian: and you obviously used it.
Plant: of course, used it? we've just written a new song and made it ourselves!
no but i mean everybody had such a will and now everybody's got work permits,
so we're gonna go on tour and take the um.. will you be alright with that?
Ian: yes thanks very much
Plant: um we hope to take everybody with us, off around the globe, you know
Ian: what keeps bringing you back there [Morocco] and what things do you need
to know when you go there?
Plant: Well you need to know French, at least, and you need an incredible sense
of humour, and ah
Plant: well cos its a great place, a state of illusion isn't it? the people
have got such a great humour and they got .. and it's such a put on...
"Everything is possible, everything is yours, everything will be there
tomorrow, Don't worry, whatever you want it's coming...yes yes its great".
And then of course nothing happens at all. But the same people go "oh
this is such a distress, never mind, everything will be here again tomorrow"
Page: I've seen a bit of that over here though actually.
Plant: Yeah, the Australian Moroccans...
Page: oh, the record company's tut tutting us
Ian: ooh don't get Deb started...
Plant: I tell you what, Deborah is the finest record company person we've come
Ian: (reading Faxes) um a question for Robert Plant...
Plant: "Why don't you write to me, signed Mom"
Ian: ..."what sort of music do you tend to listen to these days?"
Plant: um..well your station's so bloody old fashioned and middle of the road
you can't...you haven't even got the latest Transglobal Underground CD, and do
you have any-
Ian: ah cheap shot
Plant: Porter's Head?
Ian: Porter's Head? Well we drank the last case earlier on..
Plant: Very funny but you can't get a star [?] You've got the new Thin Lizzy
Plant: Transglobal Underground, Porter's Head, Julian Cope (sp?)
Ian: Massive Attack I heard you quoted somewhere...
Plant: The new one isn't so good...ah that's just buggered up the company..um
and Black Crowes, forever.
Ian: mmm, they're a good band
Plant: Yeah, excellent.
Page: [mumbles] and Beck.
Ian: [starts reading next question]
Page: I like Beck
Plant: [background] I am Beck [!!?]
Ian: [still asking next question]
Page: [shouts though hands like a megaphone] Beck's very good.
Ian: yeah, he is good isn't he...
Page: it's a great album
Ian: do you think he's a bit Dylanesque, in the way he writes?
Plant: yeah.. he-
Page: Yeah but it's great though isn't it?
Ian: here's a stupid fax, who do you like better, Claudia Schiffer or Elle
Plant: Oh...um... Elle McPhearson
Page: No, Claudia Schiffer
Plant: Oh well then we won't have any trouble when we go out tonight.
[some crap about Bron-Yr-Aur, nothing interesting]
Ian: Have you been into Merlin's Cave?
Plant: Oh yeah, how do you think I got here?
Plant: oh no, that was Qantas.
Ian: Um what is the connection between Wales and Marrakesh because .. the album
was produced there-
Plant: You go from Cardiff to London and then you change and go to Tangia [sp?]
Ian: Oh god..i should have... I shouldn't have even..
Page: locations, that's the connection
Plant: ooooh... say that and feel seventies...oh I feel so much better now,
where's my flares? oh he's got em
Ian: You both produced the album .. cos Jimmy you produced most of the albums
Page: He's produced his own albums too
Plant: ahh he didn't produce mine
Page: No, I said he produced his own albums
Ian: When you're producing together what happens?
Plant: We go out for a drink and leave it to the engineer.
Ian: That's what I was wondering. What do you look for when you're producing
something?.. what are the important things about producing?
Plant: Dynamics .. I think
Ian: mmm.. you agree with that too Jimmy..
Page: oh of course.
Plant: ... the dynamic is already there but you've just got to make sure it
really "bring it on home daddy".
Plant: we recorded too much [etc]
Ian: What didn't we hear?
Plant: oh...well you will hear them eventually, but um there was um Rain Song...
Page: What Is-
Plant: What Is And What Should Never Be, um.. maybe When The-oh well one or two
things I can't remember them offhand now but some things we did at the slate
quarry when we were playing up in the Welsh mountains...yeah loads of bits and
pieces, cos once you get a drone going with the hurdy gurdy, you can
sing "I'm walking backwards for Christmas"
Plant: ...you can sing...
Plant: Tie Me Kangaroo ... whoops!
Ian: ..Down Gurdy
Plant: Yeah, Down Gurdy..
[talk about the footage from Yallah in Unledded]
Ian: cos Barb, our producer actually picked out...she said "Look at this
footage.. look at those couple of white tourists in there, they look like
they're going off completely" so I spose they would have been just walking
thru the market place and there were you guys.
Plant: Yeah, and one or two of the tourists were Brian Adams' girlfriend.
Ian: Oh really!
Plant: mmm, and they became penpals with my sons, most unnerving.
Ian: And now, what are your kids.. I don't know whether-
Plant: what are they? They're humans.
Ian: what do they think of their dads being out there are sort of-
Plant: Well Logan's wanted me and Jimmy to work together since he could first
say "dadda jimmy sing play", cos he thought it worked. He also thought he
might be able to get a new bike at Christmas.
Ian: You can buy him a very big bike now-
Page: Our, our daughters are within months of each other aren't they and I
think they discuss us behind closed doors
Plant: Yeah they have sort of qoorum [sp? who cares] meetings about how the dads
are getting on .. 'cantankerus pair of old bastards'
Ian: and what's the attitude like, are they sort of "oh..."
Plant: yeah but they're a bit straight i mean, know wha' i mean?
Page: [something unintelligable]
Plant: ...well I hope they are!
Ian: Now..what came through the most on the faxes was-
Plant: Going to lunch seems to be the most important thing
Ian: well yeah...there was an offer also for you guys to play at a wedding,
which would have been good...
Plant: I'm allergic to them
Ian: ... free food and drink apparently covered
Page, Plant: well yes
Ian: ahh are you going to be touring?
Plant: Yes....mostly wedding receptions
Ian: and are you going to be coming out here to Australia?
Plant: yeah, ah ha.
Ian: Any time you want to give us on that?
Ian: Next year?
Plant: Yeah it'll be that.. hopefully next October, November.
Plant: Debbie? Deborah, when can we come?
Debbie: [in background] yes October.
Plant: Thankyou. The voice of Phonogram/Polygram.
Ian: it's official
Page: The official blessing.
Ian: and is it going to be like the super tours of the planet, is it going to
be a huge thing with lots of lights...
Page: no its just lots of musicians...just like you see on the-
Plant: I think we're doing the last night of Les Girls
Ian: Oh! now that's another question we were-
Plant: Hey shutup, keep going, keep going!
Ian: -supposed to ask about Charlotte [?] and Les Girls
Plant: Quick, play the ad tape now .. good night it's been great
Ian: she came in here and was talking...anyway
Page: was she?
[everyone starts talking at once here so bear with me]
Plant: how is she?
Ian: yes, she sends her regards...she's very good she's writing books...ah
we'll see if we have a copy here for you..
Plant: Oh shit.
[everyone talks at once, I can't hear]
Ian: listen we're running out of time
Plant: Thank god for that
Ian: ..we've obviously hit an embarassing qorum [??!] um one last question..
Plant: No I used to go out with Robert Morely
[all laugh in background]
Page: stunned silence
Ian: you've shocked us...um Song Remains the Same you guys all acted out your
fantasies of what you wanted to do ..um I think Jimmy you were the devil and Ro-
Page: WHAT? I was not!
Plant: Somebody's having a quick polish
Page: The devil, for heaven's sake
Plant: Oh come on, all these years people have thought that that's what you
were, you better put us straight
Page: its far more than that, it's like the hermit's tarot card and and and
coming up the mountain and ttto the beacon of truth, you know and then there's
the seven ages of man and my goodness gracious it was hardly the devil. And then
again you see when you try to be too clever, noone knows what you are doing.
Ian: ...you're misconstrued
Plant: Most people want to know what time the bar shuts
Page: that's right
Ian: and Robert, you were ah, Prince Valient.
Plant: No I wasn't actually. I was..actually mine too was a metaphorical
comment, I wanted-... oh forget it
Page: [snorts with laughter]
Plant: I'll have another one of them please
Ian: cos I was going to ask you if your fantasy .. this might be a bit flakey..
would your fantasy still be the same now?
Plant: Wrong colour.
Ian: Wrong colour? Different outfits?
Plant: Yeah, different outfits, wrong colour
Ian: But the same fantasy?
Plant: Same vibe
Plant: Yeah except I wouldn't use a horse now I'd use a Mercedes I think.
Ian: haha Droptop or sedan?
Plant: Oh I don't know.. no no I mean, well I think the thing is that everything
that you consider is absolutely and totally beautiful, you have to get the
perspective right, and once you get up to it, close up it's not everthing
it seems. Keep on going down life's old journey and I'll quote something from
the song lines if only I'd [garbled]
Ian: Well goodness me if only we had the time.. ah Robert Plant and Jimmy Page..
Plant: I knew we could stop this one way or another.
Ian: Thanks very much for coming in here this afternoon, it's been a real
Plant: Cool... we had a nice time.
Ian: We'll go out with Kashmir.
Plant: Yeah what are those [???] doing there?
Ian: What? what's oh.. haha oh well he works here.
Plant: Oh does he, .. thank god they don't let a [kid duck?] in.