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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 19:04:06 -0500 From: Timothy Heppell To: LED ZEPPELIN Subject: P/P Australian Radio interview (long) Message-ID: Excerpts from radio interview on the Australian JJJ network, 17/11/94. Ian Rogerson with guests Jimmy Page and Robert Plant I've mostly typed out the totally useless, non informational stuff that I found funny, don't ask me why... [intros] Ian: Welcome back to Australia guys Page: Thanks very much Plant: Speak for yourself ... Ian: ..and when we come back in a few moments time we'll be delving into that album. Plant: I told you he could string a sentence together. Ian: why, did I look completely incompetant earlier on? Plant: You...mind you, you had breasts earlier. [Friends] Ian: ...I guess more than anything you two would have to be long term friends, I mean- Plant: We're doing good today Page: Yeah Ian: What do you mean, you're doing good today? Plant: Well we are! .. Ian: How long have you guys known each other? .. Plant: I remember getting to Jimmy's and he wasn't home, he was in London doing a session and he had a delectable American girlfriend, who opened the door wearing very little more than just a sort of..half a kimono, and I was a northern lad with me suitcase strapped up and all my clothes falling out and I thought...I'd like to stay around in this environment ..it's pretty creative... .. Ian: ..and what made you arrive at Jimmy's place? Plant: British Rail .. Plant: I had nowhere else to go. I was living at Terry Reeves house, the guy who should have had the job, who Jimmy wanted in the first place... his father was a tractor salesman in Cambridge and [to Jimmy] you remember his dad was a real pain (Jimmy: was he?) yeah he sells a mean tractor... [some stuff about the band forming, a story about Howlin' Wolf, psycadelic rock, Band of Joy and Yardbirds, but nothing new] ... Ian: ..so '72 you were out here and we actually got a fax through with one of the... Plant: not some damages is it? Ian: no its called- Plant: it must be a bill for some chairs Ian: "Rock band: The Led Zeppelin".. oh there it is- have a look at that..I'm sorry I wish I could show it to our listening audience here at the moment... Plant: (reading)[anouncer's newsreel type voice] "Stomping room only at the Festival Hall" Good god look! those are my jeans I'm wearing now! naah its- Page: There's the double neck I'm still playing now, literally. [talk turns to No Quarter] Ian: Were you always close all the way through that period of time even after Led Zeppelin finished up or was it... Plant: No we were respectfully at a distance I think Page: [giggles] .. [pause] ahh sorry I was just reading this article (all laugh) ... [Battle of evermore] Ian: I love...it's an amazing instrument the hurdy gurdy isn't it? Page: yeah...certainly the way Nigel Eaton plays it..he's made some CD's of his own you know, definitely worth checking out...so many different tones out of it. Plant: His latest CD is called Whirling Pope Joan [i think] ... Ian: you were saying earlier that you had a project to do together..ah Plant: Should we be flippant or should we be serious...should we put the cloaks on and sort of ... Ian: Turn into gurus again? Page: googoo? Plant: ah..great musicians yes. Ian: Ok fair enough, we'll be flippant. Plant: No! Don't do that!..we were so lucky to find such an array of talent in England ..so cheaply Ian: You had Porl Thomson from The Cure Page: hmm hmm Plant: He wasn't cheap. Page: Hossam Ramzy from the Egyptians...he wasn't cheap. Plant: no he's certainly not! Ian: Who were the really expensive ones...they were them? Plant: ahh .. well Jimmy was the most expensive Page: Well naturally Plant: ..and our management are a bit expensive as well...well they're more wide than expensive .. expensive widoes.. can you play anything like Keith Richards? Ian: Anything you want Plant: yeah, 99 by Keith. Ian: ahh yeah i was just thinking Plant: Is there anything wrong with your nose? Ian: I'm sorry I have terrible hay fever Plant: It's dropping off Page: I used to have that in 1972. Plant: ..and then he was arrested .. Ian: and i think "these guys are going around the world on an interview tour", why do that to yourselves? Plant: It's the quickest way to Argentina from Japan Ian: Why were you going to Argentina then, Robert? Plant: I wanna go home .. Ian: We also got the chance to see a big 35mm movie that you made...is this gonna be released? Plant: Yeah..ah well it's coming out on Australian TV about December the 10th or something like that? um it's all jok...I mean we gotta joke cos we're so fed up with being serious about it ... but the thing is, it's quite an achievement to watch you try and listen to me and look for your cigarettes, Ian: sorry...thankyou Plant: ah, it's quite an achievement to ah ..haha got you there Ian: I'm a dead guy Plant: ..to do this, it's hard enough to walk and chew gum, so really, to actually get this together, and the most amazing thing was that there was such an amazing will from everybody...that normally when you do a big deal, thing, it requires rehearsals and serious analysis of the thing, but it had it's own momentum, it was really..wasn't it great? Page: yeah Plant: and um the Egyptians, everybody had got their own idea to add to it... Page: they warmed to the cause Plant: yeah so like when you played Friends, just at the beginning of Friends there's a violin part, and then you hear that flute, and the guys just said one day, in their broken English, "We think we can improve this song by giving you an introduction-" Page: ..an introduction they'd written for the song..worked on it and came in Ian: and you obviously used it. Plant: yeah Page: Naturally Plant: of course, used it? we've just written a new song and made it ourselves! no but i mean everybody had such a will and now everybody's got work permits, so we're gonna go on tour and take the um.. will you be alright with that? Ian: yes thanks very much Plant: um we hope to take everybody with us, off around the globe, you know .. Ian: what keeps bringing you back there [Morocco] and what things do you need to know when you go there? Plant: Well you need to know French, at least, and you need an incredible sense of humour, and ah Ian: Why? Plant: well cos its a great place, a state of illusion isn't it? the people have got such a great humour and they got .. and it's such a put on... "Everything is possible, everything is yours, everything will be there tomorrow, Don't worry, whatever you want it's coming...yes yes its great". And then of course nothing happens at all. But the same people go "oh this is such a distress, never mind, everything will be here again tomorrow" Page: I've seen a bit of that over here though actually. Plant: Yeah, the Australian Moroccans... Page: oh, the record company's tut tutting us Ian: ooh don't get Deb started... Plant: I tell you what, Deborah is the finest record company person we've come across... [applause] .. Ian: (reading Faxes) um a question for Robert Plant... Plant: "Why don't you write to me, signed Mom" Ian: ..."what sort of music do you tend to listen to these days?" Plant: um..well your station's so bloody old fashioned and middle of the road you can't...you haven't even got the latest Transglobal Underground CD, and do you have any- Ian: ah cheap shot Plant: Porter's Head? Ian: Porter's Head? Well we drank the last case earlier on.. Plant: Very funny but you can't get a star [?] You've got the new Thin Lizzy album.. .. Plant: Transglobal Underground, Porter's Head, Julian Cope (sp?) Ian: Massive Attack I heard you quoted somewhere... Plant: The new one isn't so good...ah that's just buggered up the company..um and Black Crowes, forever. Ian: mmm, they're a good band Plant: Yeah, excellent. Page: [mumbles] and Beck. Ian: [starts reading next question] Page: I like Beck Plant: [background] I am Beck [!!?] Ian: [still asking next question] Page: [shouts though hands like a megaphone] Beck's very good. Ian: yeah, he is good isn't he... Page: it's a great album Ian: do you think he's a bit Dylanesque, in the way he writes? Plant: yeah.. he- Page: Yeah but it's great though isn't it? Ian: here's a stupid fax, who do you like better, Claudia Schiffer or Elle McPhearson? Plant: Oh...um... Elle McPhearson Page: No, Claudia Schiffer Plant: Oh well then we won't have any trouble when we go out tonight. [some crap about Bron-Yr-Aur, nothing interesting] Ian: Have you been into Merlin's Cave? Plant: Oh yeah, how do you think I got here? Ian: [laughs] Plant: oh no, that was Qantas. Ian: Um what is the connection between Wales and Marrakesh because .. the album was produced there- Plant: You go from Cardiff to London and then you change and go to Tangia [sp?] Ian: Oh god..i should have... I shouldn't have even.. Page: locations, that's the connection Plant: Vibes Ian: Vibes Plant: ooooh... say that and feel seventies...oh I feel so much better now, where's my flares? oh he's got em Ian: You both produced the album .. cos Jimmy you produced most of the albums before hand.. Page: He's produced his own albums too Plant: ahh he didn't produce mine Page: No, I said he produced his own albums Ian: When you're producing together what happens? Plant: We go out for a drink and leave it to the engineer. Page: Yeah Ian: That's what I was wondering. What do you look for when you're producing something?.. what are the important things about producing? Plant: Dynamics .. I think Page: yeah Ian: mmm.. you agree with that too Jimmy.. Page: oh of course. Plant: ... the dynamic is already there but you've just got to make sure it really "bring it on home daddy". [Gallows Pole] ... Plant: we recorded too much [etc] Ian: What didn't we hear? Plant: oh...well you will hear them eventually, but um there was um Rain Song... Page: What Is- Plant: What Is And What Should Never Be, um.. maybe When The-oh well one or two things I can't remember them offhand now but some things we did at the slate quarry when we were playing up in the Welsh mountains...yeah loads of bits and pieces, cos once you get a drone going with the hurdy gurdy, you can sing "I'm walking backwards for Christmas" Ian: yeah Plant: ...you can sing... Ian: anything Plant: Tie Me Kangaroo ... whoops! Ian: ..Down Gurdy Plant: Yeah, Down Gurdy.. [talk about the footage from Yallah in Unledded] Ian: cos Barb, our producer actually picked out...she said "Look at this footage.. look at those couple of white tourists in there, they look like they're going off completely" so I spose they would have been just walking thru the market place and there were you guys. Plant: Yeah, and one or two of the tourists were Brian Adams' girlfriend. Ian: Oh really! Plant: mmm, and they became penpals with my sons, most unnerving. Ian: And now, what are your kids.. I don't know whether- Plant: what are they? They're humans. Ian: what do they think of their dads being out there are sort of- Plant: Well Logan's wanted me and Jimmy to work together since he could first say "dadda jimmy sing play", cos he thought it worked. He also thought he might be able to get a new bike at Christmas. Ian: You can buy him a very big bike now- Page: Our, our daughters are within months of each other aren't they and I think they discuss us behind closed doors Plant: Yeah they have sort of qoorum [sp? who cares] meetings about how the dads are getting on .. 'cantankerus pair of old bastards' Ian: and what's the attitude like, are they sort of "oh..." Page: ...supportive Plant: yeah but they're a bit straight i mean, know wha' i mean? Page: [something unintelligable] Plant: ...well I hope they are! Ian: Now..what came through the most on the faxes was- Plant: Going to lunch seems to be the most important thing Ian: well yeah...there was an offer also for you guys to play at a wedding, which would have been good... Plant: I'm allergic to them Ian: ... free food and drink apparently covered Page, Plant: well yes Ian: ahh are you going to be touring? Plant: Yes....mostly wedding receptions Ian: and are you going to be coming out here to Australia? Plant: yeah, ah ha. Ian: Any time you want to give us on that? Page: well.. Ian: Next year? Plant: Yeah it'll be that.. hopefully next October, November. Ian: Fantastic Plant: Debbie? Deborah, when can we come? Debbie: [in background] yes October. Plant: Thankyou. The voice of Phonogram/Polygram. Ian: it's official Page: The official blessing. Ian: and is it going to be like the super tours of the planet, is it going to be a huge thing with lots of lights... Page: no its just lots of musicians...just like you see on the- Plant: I think we're doing the last night of Les Girls Ian: Oh! now that's another question we were- Plant: Hey shutup, keep going, keep going! Ian: -supposed to ask about Charlotte [?] and Les Girls Plant: Quick, play the ad tape now .. good night it's been great Ian: she came in here and was talking...anyway Page: was she? [everyone starts talking at once here so bear with me] Plant: how is she? Ian: yes, she sends her regards...she's very good she's writing books...ah we'll see if we have a copy here for you.. Page: [guffaws] Plant: Oh shit. [everyone talks at once, I can't hear] Ian: listen we're running out of time Plant: Thank god for that Ian: ..we've obviously hit an embarassing qorum [??!] um one last question.. Plant: No I used to go out with Robert Morely [all laugh in background] Ian: Fabulous! Page: stunned silence Ian: you've shocked us...um Song Remains the Same you guys all acted out your fantasies of what you wanted to do ..um I think Jimmy you were the devil and Ro- Page: WHAT? I was not! Plant: Somebody's having a quick polish Page: The devil, for heaven's sake Plant: Oh come on, all these years people have thought that that's what you were, you better put us straight Page: its far more than that, it's like the hermit's tarot card and and and coming up the mountain and ttto the beacon of truth, you know and then there's the seven ages of man and my goodness gracious it was hardly the devil. And then again you see when you try to be too clever, noone knows what you are doing. Ian: ...you're misconstrued Plant: Most people want to know what time the bar shuts Page: that's right Ian: and Robert, you were ah, Prince Valient. Plant: No I wasn't actually. I was..actually mine too was a metaphorical comment, I wanted-... oh forget it Page: [snorts with laughter] Plant: I'll have another one of them please Ian: cos I was going to ask you if your fantasy .. this might be a bit flakey.. would your fantasy still be the same now? Plant: Wrong colour. Ian: Wrong colour? Different outfits? Plant: Yeah, different outfits, wrong colour Ian: But the same fantasy? Plant: Same vibe Page: hmmm Plant: Yeah except I wouldn't use a horse now I'd use a Mercedes I think. Ian: haha Droptop or sedan? Plant: Oh I don't know.. no no I mean, well I think the thing is that everything that you consider is absolutely and totally beautiful, you have to get the perspective right, and once you get up to it, close up it's not everthing it seems. Keep on going down life's old journey and I'll quote something from the song lines if only I'd [garbled] Ian: Well goodness me if only we had the time.. ah Robert Plant and Jimmy Page.. [all laugh] Plant: I knew we could stop this one way or another. Ian: Thanks very much for coming in here this afternoon, it's been a real pleasure. Page: Thankyou Plant: Cool... we had a nice time. Ian: We'll go out with Kashmir. [Kashmir starts] Plant: Yeah what are those [???] doing there? Ian: What? what's oh.. haha oh well he works here. Plant: Oh does he, .. thank god they don't let a [kid duck?] in. [END]

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