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This is a transcript of the interview Kurt Loder did with Plant and Page that aired this past weekend (Oct. 15th) on _MTV Week in Rock_. Loder: With all the geezers jumping out of the shrubbery these days, it's not easy to get excited about yet another reunion. But former Led Zeppelin partners Jimmy Page and Robert Plant brought something back with them: a dense and intricately-structured music that's actually good to hear again. Their _Unledded_ special, filmed in London, Wales and Morocco, debuted on MTV this week, and here's a bit of what it's all about. ["Kashmir" from _Unledded_] Loder: Fourteen years after the death of drummer John Bonham broke up the band, Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page and singer Robert Plant have reunited for what they emphasize is *not* a Led Zeppelin reunion. Plant: --at the beginning of this year, and we really were just talking about doing something where we could work in much more of a future tense, but use the past as a kind of way of getting into the future. And we had to figure out a way of doing it so it wasn't a four-piece typical rock formula, because otherwise it would have been instantly another recreation of Led Zeppelin for Led Zeppelin's sake. [miscellaneous clips] Loder: Page and Plant have put together a 90-minute special filmed in London and in Morocco and Wales, which has also, of course, yielded a soundtrack album. The material is reconfigured arrangements of Zeppelin classics plus some new songs, all flavored with African and Western folk instruments, much in the exotic Zeppelin tradition. ["Wah Wah" from _Unledded_] Loder: What's different this time around, according to Page and Plant, is their non-glitz focus. Plant: I don't care about being a rock star, or whatever it is, 'cause I've been one, you know, and it-- Page: Yeah, well-- Plant: --and I've quite enjoyed it. But I want to do something really good and strong and powerful, and that's-- so that was really, as you [Page] said, a catalyst, I think. Page: Yeah, that was a start. ["Yallah" from _Unledded_] Loder: The whole project started out with a bunch of north African drum loops supplied by a friend of Plant's, loops that turned out to be powerfully inspirational. Page: It was perfect sort of catalyst for us, really, to get, you know, to sort of put ourselves into something which was totally new. Plant: 'Cause it wasn't just a drummer drumming. There's nothing wrong with a drummer drumming, but that whole Arab/African poly- rhythms, the whole-- the way it moves, it's so much more seductive-- Page: Yeah. Plant: --and sexual, sensual, and dark... And it-- Page: And evocative. Plant: Yeah. And all those words that we don't understand. [Page laughs] ["Battle of Evermore" from _Unledded_] Loder: Page and Plant's _Unledded_ undertaking bears little resemblance to the glossy sound of 90's rock, which was very much what Plant at least had in mind. Plant: All this crap that we're surrounded by now began once in a room above a hardware store with some guys really kicking ass with an upright bass, drums, and guitar, and singing teenage angst. But the thing is that the whole rock and roll thing was magnificent before it was manipulated. Loder: Now, when everything is-- Plant: Before it became so really glossy, and, you know, and, um, and before Genesis. And really I think-- Loder: Before Genesis the band? Plant: [looks confused] Uh-- [looks quickly at Page] Did I-- [looks back to Loder; Page smiles; there is laugher off-screen] I suppose so, yeah. I didn't realize-- Loder: I think you really hit it right on the head there. Plant: Shit. I didn't even know I said that. ["Since I've Been Loving You" from _Unledded_] Plant: The years in between 1980 when John passed away to now, we've done other things, and had other good times, and this is a time to have a good time together. [Page nods] So we will probably tour, and we will probably tour in obscure places as well as obvious ones-- Loder: Really. [Page makes noise of agreement] Plant: --and take the music to places where the music's never been. Loder: The Page and Plant _Unledded_ special is rerunning on MTV all this weekend and the soundtrack from the show is on its way, too, next month.

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