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(435) Wed 25 Dec 96 20:32 By: Gwenny the Pooh To: Jim Staal Re: Oops, Caught Again Heilsa, Jim! Remember how you were recently saying that Wild is a wife abuser? Remember how you claimed I had never told you that Wild was my SECOND husband and that the abuser was my first?? Well, guess what I found while browsing through my old files?? A series of posts from you explaining why Gwenny abuse was okay. Just for chuckles I am reposting an "edited for brevity" copy of it. === Cut === Ä Religion Debate Echo (1:128/203.2) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ HOLYSMOKE Msg : #5396 [5613] From : Preston Simpson 1:123/318 Wed 20 Sep 95 23:48 To : Dr. James Staal Fri 22 Sep 95 17:33 Subj : Raise the Standard... ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ Whilst noshing on a Twinkie, Dr. James Staal mumbled "Raise the Standard..." DJS> I tend to disagree. There is such a thing a 'respect' or a Aretha DJS> put R-E-S-P-E-C-T. Disrespect can and should invovle punishment to DJS> correct the situation. If Gwenny or anyone for that matter, had said DJS> the things to the Lance-man (Judge Ito) that she provoked her little DJS> man husband with, I'm sure the punishment would be a little more DJS> than merely bieng slapped about a bit. DJS> any air moving? Didn't think so). Words can hurt worse than being DJS> struck. The pain of being struck dissapates quite rapidly, whereas DJS> the pain caused by words can last forever. Consider what the Bible DJS> has to say on the subject: Ä Religion Debate Echo (1:128/203.2) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ HOLYSMOKE Msg : #5405 [5614] From : Jason Harmon 1:3652/9 Tue 19 Sep 95 18:49 To : Jimmy Fri 22 Sep 95 17:33 Subj : Re: THE DOUBLE STANDARD ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ -=> Quoting Jimmy to Jason Harmon <=- DJS> My point was that if her smart A** mouth aggravated him as much as it DJS> did me, my revenge was extracted in advance. JH> Let it be known that the above JH> states that wife beating is OK if the wife has a "smart A** JH> mouth." Ji> No, I believe the doctor was saying very clearly that 'Gwenny Ji> beating' is OK if the Gwenny (and she does) have a 'smart A** mouth. Ji> Nothing to do with wives in general. Gwenny in particular. Ä Religion Debate Echo (1:128/203.2) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ HOLYSMOKE Msg : #6756 [7191] From : AL SCHROEDER 1:116/3000 Sun 24 Sep 95 15:55 To : DR. JAMES N. STAAL Tue 26 Sep 95 06:03 Subj : THE DOUBLE STANDARD ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ Ji> No, I believe the doctor was saying very clearly that 'Gwenny Ji> beating' is OK if the Gwenny (and she does) have a 'smart A** mouth. Ji> Nothing to do with wives in general. Gwenny in particular. AS> Jimmy, I HOPE I am misreading this. It almost looks as if you are AS> saying that wife-beating is condoned if a particular wife is a AS> smartmouth. DJNS> No, it looked as though I _was_ saying that Gwenny beating was DJNS> condoned. And yes, you would be correct in saying that. AS> Unless perhaps you are another female. There are no AS> circumstances where wife beating can be condoned. It is the mark AS> of a bully and a coward, one who hits his wife in the privacy of his AS> own house because he has terrorized her enough where she cannot hit AS> back, and needs a punching bag. DJNS> The person you describe here is a moron...like Gwenny's >> first DJNS> husband. << AS> Gwenny is a delightful person, and has suffered much in her life, AS> and the merest suggestion that she (or for that matter, any woman) AS> can do something to deserve a beating raises my ire. DJNS> Sorry. We disagree. DJNS> Not really...it started when Gwenny abused me verbally and then DJNS> told me how her >>first husband<< (4'5", 98lbs, with only one arm) DJNS> use kick thre crap outta her and I said she had it coming. === Cut === In two locations we see you use the phrase "first husband". So much for your assertion that I never told you. Plus we get to re-live one of your finer fundy fuck-ups. BTW, David is 5'10" and weighed 135 pounds when I was married to him. Merry Christmas. My skin, my bones, my heretic heart are my authority, Gwenny ... OPERATOR! Trace this call and tell me where I am. --- GoldED/386 2.50+ 164LM1 * Origin: Pass the Cup of crimson wonder (FidoNet 1:128/203.2)

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