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From: Paul D. Farrar To: All Msg #216, Jul-13-93 11:30AM Subject: Where are the Creationists of tomorrow? Organization: POPS Supercomputer Center From: farrar@pops.navo.navy.mil (Paul D. Farrar) Message-ID: <1993Jul13.193057.7443@cs.tulane.edu> Reply-To: farrar@pops.navo.navy.mil Newsgroups: talk.origins Where are the creationists of tomorrow? Laugh at them, rage at them while you still can. The leading lights of Price-ite young-earth, young-life, flood-geology creationism will soon be dimmed by time. Unless they were child prodigies, Gish should be in his late 60s and Morris in his late 70s (old enough to remember the Scopes trial). These two gents resuscitated George McCready Price's DOA flood geology and made it into the creed of a creationist organisation, elbowing their way into the limelight as the official spokesman of the Lord on scientific topics. They were rare finds, having real Ph.Ds in science and engineering from real universities, and, in Morris's case, minor prominence in the administrative cadre of hydraulic engineering. But their successes will probably not outlast them. Their prominence in creationism has warped it in a direction which has marginalized it. Their influence has tied the movement to scientific theory which even many fundamentalist Christians regard as absurd and embarrassing. They will have successors, although probably not from their own following of mail-order Ph.Ds in ark-eology. The doctrine that gives man a special place in the universe will demand new spokesmen. Flood geology should survive in farther fringe groups, but could disappear in the more mainstream fundamentalist movement. ASA-style spokesmen, such as Hugh Ross (trained as an astronomer) may have a chance at leadership, although they may not have the lust for power needed to seize control of the movement. Phillip Johnson is out. As a cunning lawyer, he knows better than to take a position on a scientific issue, preferring his role as arbiter of "truth." I do not think that creationism will disappear as a threat to humanity, but like the once-mighty Evil Empire, it may fall into ruin, leaving its ecological niche open for some new, and yet unrecognized successor.

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