The cure for cults that want to deny others their freedom of speech is more freedom of speech -- Fredric Rice

What good is the ability to think if one discards it entirely in favor of trying desperately to hold on to a warm and fuzzy occult superstition? In this propaganda piece we find the ICR cult advancing their notions on "The origin of conceptual thought in living systems." Obviously the fact that people -- well _some_ people, any way -- can think must mean that "gods dun it." Ironically the only people who come to such a conclusion _aren't_ thinking.

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It is almost universally taught in the high schools and universities... that a truly scientific view of the origin of life must be concerned solely with its origin from the properties of inorganic matter over huge time spans unaided by any extra-material factor or factors.

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"Do you have a better explanation, George? One that doesn't call for invisible magical superfriends waving their magic wands? Yes? Well okay then, be sure to explain where your magical superfriend came from then." That's what springs instantly to mind.

What George would do after being asked such a question would probably be to stamp a foot in annoyance and glibly demand that his gods have always existed and thus he doesn't have to explain where they came from. Of course if George wants to play that game he may as well pretend that the Earth has always existed and that life has always been on Earth and thus there's no need to explain where they all came from.

George won't do that, of course, even though it's an equally valid claim because good old George here wants to pretend "gods dun it" and no amount of reason will sway him.

One of the other mistakes that creationists make -- deliberately since they're repeatedly informed by their intellectual superiors -- is that the origins of life has nothing to say one way or another about evolution, the advent of speciation which occured after life gets started. For some reason creationists love to deliberately confuse evolution with the origins of life rather than the advent of species. It's not as if their ignorance isn't deliberate.

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Since no one (scientist or not) really knows how life originated from inorganic matter, however, such prejudging of the whole issue of origins must of necessity be highly unscientific itself, for it pronounces dogmatically on subjects still outside the knowledge of science.

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What an utterly stupid claim. Since "nobody knows" that negates science because inquiry into the issue would have to be unscientific. Good frocking grief. The fact that one can derive theories and then test them can't be done because one doesn't start out with the known answer to begin with. Amazing. What an amazing intellect being exhibited here.

The ICR cult starts explaiing what they think isomerism is, then we start to get deep into endless debths of stupidity:

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Life's origin must then have occurred under the influence of conceptual information somewhere down the line, thus enabling the separation of right from left-handed molecules of identical state of order.

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Good grief. Amusingly the ICR cult then presumes to instruct its readers as to what constitutes "information." We get a rehash of the traditional creationist misunderstandings of the origins of self-replicating molicules. What I want to get to is the cult's occult notion on how "information" came to be stored in DNA.

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This leaves us finally with the grand question of the origin of the concepts of life's information.

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I'd suggest that George go visit his local library but some how I feel he woldn't be interested. Let's see if the cultist gets around to addressing the issue. After some time we come to:

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Life as we know it could not have started as a mixture of forms, which then, by natural selection, performed the separation of forms. The development of other concepts on the DNA molecule would require the origin of the concepts we are trying to explain.

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Here we find the fatal flaw once again in the attempt to pretend that evolution has anything to do with the orgins of life. The origins of life -- self-replicating molecular arangements -- don't rely upon natural selection.

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Now that it is known that the DNA molecule stores its information not linearly but in three dimensions, we understand that life could not, on theoretical grounds, ever have originated from inorganic matter alone.

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One's tempted to ask, "Who's 'we,' Paleface?" This is an exhibition of a behavior that's common among creationists: Because the creationist doesn't know the answer to a question -- and has no desire to -- then the cultist pretends that nobody knows.

The twin to that bizarre argument (if you want to call it that) is that when science hasn't yielded a solid answer to a question, nobody yet knows the answer so one should throw up ones hands and glibly proclaim "gods dun it."

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For these reasons, the Biblical report on the origin of life is right on the mark when it states that man, with his brain and ability to speak and to develop conceptual thought, was created in the image of God the Creator.

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It's a good thing for this cultist that his or her gods don't exist else they would be profoundly insulted by such a claim. Since creationists refuse to think, attributing their gods with the attributes such such dysfunctional humans is a profound insult to any such gods or goddesses.

Let's play the cult's game, then. Let's pretend that the origins of life are the Christanic deity constructs and let's play pretend that the "information" contained within molecular arangements were created by these deity constructs. Okay. Now. Explain where these deity constructs came from. Since information can't exist without deities hopping around creating it, now one has to create more gods to create those gods.

When you're done stacking gods, one's left with "it's gods all the way up and turtles all the way down."

That's "creation science," folks. That's what this cult wants to get taught as fact in the public schools. Imagine trying to compete with Japan in the world-wide marketplace with a bunch of scientifically illiterate dolts that were subjected to this nonsense in the public schools. Can you imagine the result in America's technologies if these idiot notions were taught as fact in the public schools?

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