Archive Message - 1995
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Since some of the materials which describe the $cientology cult could be considered to be copywritten materials, I have censored myself and The Skeptic Tank by deleting any and all possible text files which describes the cult's hidden mythologies. I have elected to quote just a bit of the questionable text according to the "Fair Use" legal findings afforded to those who report. - Fredric L. Rice, The Skeptic Tank, 09/Sep/95 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From news.interserv.net!news.sprintlink.net!gatech!newsfeed.pitt.edu!hudson.lm.com!news.psc.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!wb24+ Mon Jul 10 17:04:08 1995 Path: news.interserv.net!news.sprintlink.net!gatech!newsfeed.pitt.edu!hudson.lm.com!news.psc.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!wb24+ From: William Bardwell <wbardwel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Repost: content of canceled articles Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 23:09:45 -0400 Organization: Computer Science Department, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 499 Message-ID: <Uk09btK00YUq8Mt4VT@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: andrew.cmu.edu This was canceled... ----- Trade Secret Issue: As far as I know none of the posters are bound by contracts reguarding these materials, nor am I, and as such they do not receive any protection against publication by me...(and the posters can atest to if they have any contracts or obtained the material from someone who did...) Copyright Issue: These are small snipits, used for critical analysis, and as such are legal reguardless of Copyright status due to Fair use provisions. So, here are the 3 posts that I saw listed as canceled (if I missed some tell me...this site here doesn't do cancels...) X-Andrew-WideReply: netnews.alt.religion.scientology X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: via nntpserv with nntp; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 10:17:53 -0400 (EDT) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Path: andrew.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cam.news.pipex.net!pipex!edi.news.pipex.net!pipex!warwick!bsmail!plmlp From: plmlp@mail.bris.ac.uk (Martin Poulter) Subject: Re: Let's discuss trade secrets Message-ID: <DB3DCw.I67@uns.bris.ac.uk> Sender: usenet@uns.bris.ac.uk (Usenet news owner) Nntp-Posting-Host: mail.bris.ac.uk Organization: University of Bristol, England References: <DAyxAy.Co4@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <3t1vnh$cme@camelot.ccs.neu.edu> Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 13:55:44 GMT Lines: 51 What's all this about us not being able to discuss the OT levels, or keep copies of SCAMIZDAT on our systems? It's none of Helena Kobrins's business if we keep a single copy for private study (IMHO IANAL YMMV). Using extracts from SCAMIZDAT in the context of published criticism of Scientology is perfectly within our "fair use" rights. It is what Dennis was doing and he was right to do it. Here's an example of Fair Use: An Extract from OT7 First, some background: this is the OT-7 course. To get this far, you have to pay *LARGE* amounts of money (unless you join staff, in which case you'll probably still have to pay for books, tapes etc.). It is at this stage that the OT is expected to develop all kinds of supernatural powers (you know, the powers that we all had trillions of years ago until we were given the mass amnesia that fooled us into thinking that we are physical beings.) Hubbard doesn't require you to demonstrate these powers to anyone:- you just have to *convince yourself* that you have them ("if it's true for you.."). The power that is supposed to be developed in this section is the power to plant one's thoughts into another being, with the purpose of communicating with them or even controlling them. Here it is from Hubbard himself: OT7-48 1. Find some plants, trees, etc., and communicate to them individually until you know they received your communication. 2. Go to a zoo or a place with many types of life and communicate with each of them until you know the communication is received and, if possible, returned. OT7-49 Go out to a park, train station or other busy area. Practice placing an intention into individuals until you can successfully and easily place an intention into or on a being and/or a body [end of quote] You know those sad people hanging around on their own in zoos or train stations? They're scientologists! [end of commentary] How can the law tell me whether I can have SCAMIZDAT archives on my disks (which are my own personal property, not used for commercial purposes, etc.)? By deleting the files, we are just giving in to the harassment. -- MARTIN L: Postgrad. studying "Probability and Belief" at Bristol University POULTER : KNIGHT NATASEVOLLLEWYLLOJI WWW Home Page & Scientology Critics' OF Scientology is a dangerous cult stuff: http://mail.bris.ac.uk/~plmlp XENU -warn your family and friends. X-Andrew-WideReply: netnews.alt.religion.scientology X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: via nntpserv with nntp; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 02:17:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <055324Z03071995@anon.penet.fi> Path: andrew.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!news.eunet.fi!anon.penet.fi Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology From: an280241@anon.penet.fi (Culex) X-Anonymously-To: alt.religion.scientology Organization: Anonymous forwarding service Reply-To: an280241@anon.penet.fi Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 05:52:20 UTC Subject: Let's discuss trade secrets Lines: 38 In article <DB3DCw.I67@uns.bris.ac.uk> plmlp@mail.bris.ac.uk "Martin Poulter" writes: > Here it is from Hubbard himself: > OT7-48 > 1. Find some plants, trees, etc., and communicate to them > individually until you know they received your communication. Isn't that - talking to trees - what HRH Prince Brian is reputed to do? You don't suppose that Brenda's son _is_ a $cieno, do you? > How can the law tell me whether I can have SCAMIZDAT archives on my disks > (which are my own personal property, not used for commercial purposes, etc.)? > By deleting the files, we are just giving in to the harassment. I would suggest that you read the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 and, in particular, section 107 (1); you'll find that, even for copyrighted works, personal importation for one's "private and domestic use" and even non- commercial, petty distribution, would appear not to be criminal offences. +-------+ | Culex | +-------+ ============================================================================== Support Dennis Erlich! Send cheques (any currency) payable to Morrison & Foerster and labelled DENNIS ERLICH DEFENCE FUND to: Carla Oakley/Katie Walsh, MORRISON & FOERSTER, 345 California St, San Francisco CA 94104-2675 Tel (415) 677-7700 For verification of this info, email ssteele@eff.org (Shari Steele) ============================================================================== ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi. If you reply to this message, your message WILL be *automatically* anonymized and you are allocated an anon id. Read the help file to prevent this. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin@anon.penet.fi. X-Andrew-WideReply: netnews.alt.religion.scientology X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: via nntpserv with nntp; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 13:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Path: andrew.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!oitnews.harvard.edu!rutgers!news.iag.net!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!pacifier!news.alpha.net!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!ccnet.com!ccnet.com!not-for-mail From: tweek@ccnet.com (The R R M Tweek) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Let's discuss trade secrets Date: 2 Jul 1995 10:03:17 -0700 Organization: O.A.P.C.E. Organization Against Politically Correct Etiquette Lines: 32 Message-ID: <3t6jgl$iif@ccnet3.ccnet.com> References: <DAyxAy.Co4@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <3t1vnh$cme@camelot.ccs.neu.edu> <DB3DCw.I67@uns.bris.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: ccnet3 plmlp@mail.bris.ac.uk (Martin Poulter) writes: >1. Find some plants, trees, etc., and communicate to them >individually until you know they received your communication. When you get really good at this, you can end up growing tomatoes the size of watermelons. >2. Go to a zoo or a place with many types of life and communicate >with each of them until you know the communication is >received and, if possible, returned. The monkey cages are ideal hangout spots for this tech. >Go out to a park, train station or other busy area. Practice placing an >intention into individuals until you can successfully and easily place an >intention into or on a being and/or a body It is extremely funny to transmit the clam engrams in a resturant. Select a particular individual, preferably one who is in a position at the moment to suffer embarasment (like a lunch meeting with a wealthy client) and enjoy as you watch the businessman's jaw start snapping. Once you get this tech down real well, yopu can time it just right so that the jaw will start snapping just as the subject puts food into his/her mouth... You should watch the food go flying... ROTFL. -- tweek@ccnet.com tweek@tweekco.ness.com WW4Net-1@11551 DoD #MCMLX N6QYA **** Regarding the Internet><WWIVNet gateway and other assorted stuff: **** http://www.io.com/~tweek/ tweek@io.com IM: Rev. Michael D. Maxfield William Bardwell wbardwel+@[cs.]cmu.edu X-Andrew-WideReply: netnews.alt.religion.scientology X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: via nntpserv with nntp; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 19:27:56 -0400 (EDT) Path: andrew.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!wb24+ From: William Bardwell <wbardwel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Repost: content of canceled articles(more) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 19:18:44 -0400 Organization: Computer Science Department, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 83 Message-ID: <wjylrIS00YUrMdJW9r@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <4jyUHF200YUq4J3rpd@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: po2.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <4jyUHF200YUq4J3rpd@andrew.cmu.edu> I was informed that I missed one..., so: Trade Secret Issue: As far as I know none of the posters are bound by contracts reguarding these materials, nor am I, nor do I know of anything to indicate that the people posting these messages obtained them illicitly, therefore, they do not receive any protection against publication by me...(and the posters can atest to if they have any contracts or obtained the material from someone who did...) Copyright Issue: This contains a small snipit, which is self satirizing, and as such, regaurdless of Copyright status is protected by fair use provisions. (again, if I missed any canceled stuff, tell me...) P.S. got a response from postmaster@ucd.ie, indicating that they have received multiple complaints and are looking into it, and expect to resolve the situation... X-Andrew-WideReply: netnews.alt.religion.scientology X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: via nntpserv with nntp; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 06:39:03 -0400 (EDT) Path: andrew.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!agate!news.mindlink.net!vanbc.wimsey.com!io.org!nobody From: cyber1@io.org (x) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: SCAMIZDAT Date: 2 Jul 1995 06:25:12 -0400 Organization: Internex Online (Data: 363-3783/Telnet: io.org) Lines: 47 Message-ID: <3t5s68$rsu@ionews.io.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: wink.io.org It seems desirable to have a concordance of the Scientology "scriptures", so that we can discuss them accurately. To that end I've written a little program to number the lines. The Unix "cat -n" command will do something similar. #include <stdio.h> int main(int ac, char **av) { unsigned int i, begin, end=65535; FILE *in; char buf[1024]; in=fopen(av[1], "r"); if(!in) return(1); fprintf(stderr, "Beginning line: "); scanf("%u", &begin); fprintf(stderr, "Ending line: "); scanf("%u", &end); for (i=1; i<=end; i++) { fgets(buf, 1024, in); if (feof(in)) return(0); if (i>=begin) printf("%05u %s", i, buf); } return(0); } A reminder, excessive quoting would be a violation of "fair use" provisions of the pertinent copyright acts. But I think quoting 25 lines is fair use, don't you? 00001 OPERATING THETAN 00002 00003 Section Three 00004 00005 The head of the Galactic Federation (76 planets around larger 00006 stars visible from here) (founded 75,000,000 years ago, very space 00007 opera) solved overpopulation (250 billion or so per planet, 178 00008 billion on average) by mass implanting. He caused people to be 00009 brought to Teegeeack (Earth) and put an H-Bomb on the principal 00010 volcanoes (Incident II) and THEN the Pacific area ones were taken 00011 in boxes to HAWAII and the Atlantic area ones to LAS PALMAS and then 00012 re "packaged". His name was Xenu. He used renegades. Various 00013 misleading data by means of circuits etc. was placed in the 00014 implants. When through with his crime loyal officers (to the people) 00015 captured him after six years of battle and put him in an electronic 00016 mountain trap where he still is. "They" are gone. The place 00017 (Confederation) has since been a desert. The length and brutality 00018 of it all was such that this Confederation never recovered. The 00019 implant is calculated to kill (by pneumonia etc.) anyone who 00020 attempts to solve it. This liability has been dispensed with by my 00021 tech development. 00022 00023 One can freewheel through the implant and die unless it is 00024 approached as precisely outlined. The "freewheel" (auto-running on 00025 and on) lasts too long, denies sleep etc. and one dies. So be William Bardwell wbardwel+@[cs.]cmu.edu X-Andrew-WideReply: netnews.alt.religion.scientology X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: via nntpserv with nntp; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 03:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Path: andrew.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!wb24+ From: William Bardwell <wbardwel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: ReReposting canceled stuff Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 02:58:36 -0400 Organization: Computer Science Department, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 201 Message-ID: <MjysaQy00YUqR_OGY1@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: andrew.cmu.edu (they also canceled another copy of this in a response from some one else...) X-Andrew-WideReply: netnews.alt.religion.scientology X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: via nntpserv with nntp; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 23:28:10 -0400 (EDT) Path: andrew.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!wb24+ From: William Bardwell <wbardwel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Repost: content of canceled articles Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 23:19:45 -0400 Organization: Computer Science Department, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 182 Message-ID: <4jyUHF200YUq4J3rpd@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: po2.andrew.cmu.edu Trade Secret Issue: As far as I know none of the posters are bound by contracts reguarding these materials, nor am I, and as such they do not receive any protection against publication by me...(and the posters can atest to if they have any contracts or obtained the material from someone who did...) Copyright Issue: These are small snipits, used for critical analysis, and as such are legal reguardless of Copyright status due to Fair use provisions. So, here are the 3 posts that I saw listed as canceled (if I missed some tell me...this site here doesn't do cancels...) X-Andrew-WideReply: netnews.alt.religion.scientology X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: via nntpserv with nntp; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 10:17:53 -0400 (EDT) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Path: andrew.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cam.news.pipex.net!pipex!edi.news.pipex.net!pipex!warwick!bsmail!plmlp From: plmlp@mail.bris.ac.uk (Martin Poulter) Subject: Re: Let's discuss trade secrets Message-ID: <DB3DCw.I67@uns.bris.ac.uk> Sender: usenet@uns.bris.ac.uk (Usenet news owner) Nntp-Posting-Host: mail.bris.ac.uk Organization: University of Bristol, England References: <DAyxAy.Co4@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <3t1vnh$cme@camelot.ccs.neu.edu> Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 13:55:44 GMT Lines: 51 What's all this about us not being able to discuss the OT levels, or keep copies of SCAMIZDAT on our systems? It's none of Helena Kobrins's business if we keep a single copy for private study (IMHO IANAL YMMV). Using extracts from SCAMIZDAT in the context of published criticism of Scientology is perfectly within our "fair use" rights. It is what Dennis was doing and he was right to do it. Here's an example of Fair Use: An Extract from OT7 First, some background: this is the OT-7 course. To get this far, you have to pay *LARGE* amounts of money (unless you join staff, in which case you'll probably still have to pay for books, tapes etc.). It is at this stage that the OT is expected to develop all kinds of supernatural powers (you know, the powers that we all had trillions of years ago until we were given the mass amnesia that fooled us into thinking that we are physical beings.) Hubbard doesn't require you to demonstrate these powers to anyone:- you just have to *convince yourself* that you have them ("if it's true for you.."). The power that is supposed to be developed in this section is the power to plant one's thoughts into another being, with the purpose of communicating with them or even controlling them. Here it is from Hubbard himself: OT7-48 1. Find some plants, trees, etc., and communicate to them individually until you know they received your communication. 2. Go to a zoo or a place with many types of life and communicate with each of them until you know the communication is received and, if possible, returned. OT7-49 Go out to a park, train station or other busy area. Practice placing an intention into individuals until you can successfully and easily place an intention into or on a being and/or a body [end of quote] You know those sad people hanging around on their own in zoos or train stations? They're scientologists! [end of commentary] How can the law tell me whether I can have SCAMIZDAT archives on my disks (which are my own personal property, not used for commercial purposes, etc.)? By deleting the files, we are just giving in to the harassment. -- MARTIN L: Postgrad. studying "Probability and Belief" at Bristol University POULTER : KNIGHT NATASEVOLLLEWYLLOJI WWW Home Page & Scientology Critics' OF Scientology is a dangerous cult stuff: http://mail.bris.ac.uk/~plmlp XENU -warn your family and friends. X-Andrew-WideReply: netnews.alt.religion.scientology X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: via nntpserv with nntp; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 02:17:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <055324Z03071995@anon.penet.fi> Path: andrew.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!news.eunet.fi!anon.penet.fi Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology From: an280241@anon.penet.fi (Culex) X-Anonymously-To: alt.religion.scientology Organization: Anonymous forwarding service Reply-To: an280241@anon.penet.fi Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 05:52:20 UTC Subject: Let's discuss trade secrets Lines: 38 In article <DB3DCw.I67@uns.bris.ac.uk> plmlp@mail.bris.ac.uk "Martin Poulter" writes: > Here it is from Hubbard himself: > OT7-48 > 1. Find some plants, trees, etc., and communicate to them > individually until you know they received your communication. Isn't that - talking to trees - what HRH Prince Brian is reputed to do? You don't suppose that Brenda's son _is_ a $cieno, do you? > How can the law tell me whether I can have SCAMIZDAT archives on my disks > (which are my own personal property, not used for commercial purposes, etc.)? > By deleting the files, we are just giving in to the harassment. I would suggest that you read the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 and, in particular, section 107 (1); you'll find that, even for copyrighted works, personal importation for one's "private and domestic use" and even non- commercial, petty distribution, would appear not to be criminal offences. +-------+ | Culex | +-------+ ============================================================================== Support Dennis Erlich! Send cheques (any currency) payable to Morrison & Foerster and labelled DENNIS ERLICH DEFENCE FUND to: Carla Oakley/Katie Walsh, MORRISON & FOERSTER, 345 California St, San Francisco CA 94104-2675 Tel (415) 677-7700 For verification of this info, email ssteele@eff.org (Shari Steele) ============================================================================== ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi. If you reply to this message, your message WILL be *automatically* anonymized and you are allocated an anon id. Read the help file to prevent this. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin@anon.penet.fi. X-Andrew-WideReply: netnews.alt.religion.scientology X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: via nntpserv with nntp; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 13:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Path: andrew.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!oitnews.harvard.edu!rutgers!news.iag.net!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!pacifier!news.alpha.net!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!ccnet.com!ccnet.com!not-for-mail From: tweek@ccnet.com (The R R M Tweek) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Let's discuss trade secrets Date: 2 Jul 1995 10:03:17 -0700 Organization: O.A.P.C.E. Organization Against Politically Correct Etiquette Lines: 32 Message-ID: <3t6jgl$iif@ccnet3.ccnet.com> References: <DAyxAy.Co4@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <3t1vnh$cme@camelot.ccs.neu.edu> <DB3DCw.I67@uns.bris.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: ccnet3 plmlp@mail.bris.ac.uk (Martin Poulter) writes: >1. Find some plants, trees, etc., and communicate to them >individually until you know they received your communication. When you get really good at this, you can end up growing tomatoes the size of watermelons. >2. Go to a zoo or a place with many types of life and communicate >with each of them until you know the communication is >received and, if possible, returned. The monkey cages are ideal hangout spots for this tech. >Go out to a park, train station or other busy area. Practice placing an >intention into individuals until you can successfully and easily place an >intention into or on a being and/or a body It is extremely funny to transmit the clam engrams in a resturant. Select a particular individual, preferably one who is in a position at the moment to suffer embarasment (like a lunch meeting with a wealthy client) and enjoy as you watch the businessman's jaw start snapping. Once you get this tech down real well, yopu can time it just right so that the jaw will start snapping just as the subject puts food into his/her mouth... You should watch the food go flying... ROTFL. -- tweek@ccnet.com tweek@tweekco.ness.com WW4Net-1@11551 DoD #MCMLX N6QYA **** Regarding the Internet><WWIVNet gateway and other assorted stuff: **** http://www.io.com/~tweek/ tweek@io.com IM: Rev. Michael D. Maxfield William Bardwell wbardwel+@[cs.]cmu.edu William Bardwell wbardwel+@[cs.]cmu.edu William Bardwell wbardwel+@[cs.]cmu.edu

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