11h-tml> The Skeptic Tank: Alt.Religion.Scientology Archive Message - 1995
Archive Message - 1995
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Since some of the materials which describe the $cientology cult could be considered to be copywritten materials, I have censored myself and The Skeptic Tank by deleting any and all possible text files which describes the cult's hidden mythologies. I have elected to quote just a bit of the questionable text according to the "Fair Use" legal findings afforded to those who report. - Fredric L. Rice, The Skeptic Tank, 09/Sep/95 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From news.interserv.net!news.sprintlink.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!cmcl2!is2.NYU.EDU!spurgeon Wed Jul 19 09:29:09 1995 Path: news.interserv.net!news.sprintlink.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!cmcl2!is2.NYU.EDU!spurgeon From: spurgeon@is2.nyu.edu (Keith Spurgeon) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: The Noose is Tightening on CoS (was Big Suprise - 79K) (LONG) Followup-To: alt.religion.scientology Date: 17 Jul 1995 23:39:52 GMT Organization: New York University Lines: 57 Message-ID: <3uesc8$5tg@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> References: <3u4mk8$n09@utopia.hacktic.nl> <noringDBpqJz.M72@netcom.com> <DBq3nJ.DwK@ceco.ceco.com> <3u8enc$e34@castlsys.demon.co.uk> <DBvoEo.EI8@ceco.ceco.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: is2.nyu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] R. Urban (a#urban@ccmail.ceco.com) wrote: : I don't access a.r.s. or alt.conspiracy or anything else that sounds like : a forum for a hate group. Hate groups just try and destroy things, : whether it's society or whatever. They all speak with forked tongues. : They follow the "means justifies the ends" strategy, which makes lying : and painting a religion out to be the devil or anything else ok. They : aren't constructive at all. If they say 'this is the way things are', : chances are it's probably just the opposite. I came to a.r.s. fairly recently with an open mind about the actions the ch*rch undertakes outside its membership (message cancellations excepted). With extremely few exceptions, the ch*ch posters have been at best misleading or at worst have presented outright lies that were contradicted by public documents, logic, or plain common sense. If you want to check out one of the web pages (http://amazing.cinenet.net/scientology.html is a good one) , you can see many documents related to the ch*rch's harassment of individuals. If you have the stomach to look at it and then you can still support the ch*rch without reservation, you are deluded. The people who post to a.r.s are a loose collectivity, not a hierarchical organization like the Co$. Probably the only thing many of them have in common is that they have written checks for Dennis Erlich's defense fund. They judge the church by its public actions. To date, a.r.s. has'not hired investigators to harass ch*rch members, slapped lawsuits on the ch*rch, or cancelled messages by church members. Don't you wish the Co$ could say that about their activities towards a.r.s. posters? "The end justifies the means," indeed. Get real. : Recently the neo-Nazis of America (from wherever State they are based {hand near switch) I'm feeling generous right now, so I won't end the discussion based on the rule that "comparing your opponent with nazis or Hitler means you lose." This is a universal rule of contemporary rhetoric. Usually I would include neo-nazis in this, but I'm a softy today. : in), came to a neighboring town to try and recruit members to their : destructive cause. It was the talk of the town. It was all over the local : news. You should have seen them and heard what they were spouting. In : fact, all the anti-religious posts fit right in there. Divide the house : and conquer, huh? : I do access some of the other newgroups though, and object to your : obvious hostile attack on religion. Doesn't matter if it's not the Jews, : Hitler would be proud of you. So much hate and malevolence. Ring Ring Ring RIng! Mr. Urban mentioned Nazis and is down for the count. This argument is over. The genius that is $cientology PR machine again sticks its foot in it's mouth. keith kox SP 3 Followups directed to alt.religion.scientology

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