Archive Message - 1995
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Since some of the materials which describe the $cientology cult could be considered to be copywritten materials, I have censored myself and The Skeptic Tank by deleting any and all possible text files which describes the cult's hidden mythologies. I have elected to quote just a bit of the questionable text according to the "Fair Use" legal findings afforded to those who report. - Fredric L. Rice, The Skeptic Tank, 09/Sep/95 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From news.interserv.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!news.uh.edu!uuneo.neosoft.com!Starbase.NeoSoft.COM!not-for-mail Wed Jul 19 09:29:21 1995 Path: news.interserv.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!news.uh.edu!uuneo.neosoft.com!Starbase.NeoSoft.COM!not-for-mail From: wbarwell@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (William Barwell) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,misc.legal,misc.legal.computing,misc.taxes,comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: The Noose is Tightening on CoS (was Big Suprise - 79K) (LONG) Date: 18 Jul 1995 21:41:37 -0500 Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 968 5800 Lines: 85 Message-ID: <3uhrd1$pk9@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> References: <noringDBpqJz.M72@netcom.com> <3uf5mk$3nj@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> <visnet-1807951028520001@dal35.onramp.net> <3uhke9$gri@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: starbase.neosoft.com Xref: news.interserv.net alt.religion.scientology:76783 misc.legal:62466 misc.legal.computing:10315 misc.taxes:18975 comp.org.eff.talk:57216 In article <3uhke9$gri@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>, Tim Johnson <esi_inc@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >In <visnet-1807951028520001@dal35.onramp.net> visnet@onramp.net (Sri >Changiana Saar) writes: >> >>In article <3uf5mk$3nj@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>, esi_inc@ix.netcom.com >(Tim >>Johnson) wrote: >> >>> Dear Sister Clara >> >>Pardon me for jumping in even though I'm not, technically, Sis Clara... > >So, as quick as someone might speak out and say, “Hey, I’m a >Scientologist and this is my point of view,” he would get vehemently and >viciously attacked religiously and personally from many sides; issue >taken with each paragraph - and all of the above based on... > >second and third hand information as I said; allegations, claims, >reports of apparently incriminating court records (much of such >inflammatory information is the result of Mr. Erlich’s activities, who >was thrown out of the Church for theft and Squirelling - that is, >altering the technology). > >Of course, someone will dutifully take exception to all these >statements, again. The rancor with which this occurs is my evidence. >So blast away. > >The responses would have me in an endless debate on every minor point, >yet they all avoided the major premise completely. So I'll be more >succinct: > >What do you know to be fact, personally, yourself, with firsthand >knowledge - what do you *actually* know about the CoS? Answer that. > > Tim, have you actually read LRH's History of Man? I have. I have a nice copy right here beside me. With a crude cover drawing of a shaggy caveman eating a turkey leg. It is a strang ebook. Tim Do you believe in clam engrams? Do you belive man was descended from teh clam? That clams propagate by spores? Do you believe in Hubbard's hilarious theories about the exploding barnacles and human teeth? Fac 1. The Coffee Grinder? Bap! Bap! Bap! Thetan traps? The halver? And this is just a start. BTs? BT clusters? GE engrams? Yes, we know about it. We know about people selling themselves into servitude to be on staff or in teh sea org to obtain promised powers that these stupid beliefs cannot and do not deliver. Can you move marbles with your attention beams as Hubbard promised? Can you find us any Stupidologist that can? Exteriorize? No? We know people get trapped in this crazy cult with freeloader debts hanging over their heads working 60 hour weeks at poverty level wages without insurance. And we know the awful things your cult does to critic, and those who leave. The whole horror storys. A stupid cult based on stupid beliefs by a brain damaged pseudoscientist who was also a pathological liar. We know he made promises based on these deluded beliefs that are not kept. We know the cult is a vicious and destructive organization thathas harrassed many and destroye dteh lives of thousands. It would take several books to get to all teh details, but yes, we know this stuff, Tim. Some of us have been watching your bizarre cult since before you were born do it's stupid cult tricks. Now about them attention beams. Marcabs. Invader Forces. Gorrilla goals. Xenu. Yeah, how can we take this stuff seriously. Pope Charles SubGenius Pope Of Houston Slack!

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