Archive Message - 1995
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From braintree!news.sprintlink.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu!dst Thu Oct 12 16:55:27 1995 Path: braintree!news.sprintlink.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu!dst From: dst+@cs.cmu.edu (Dave Touretzky) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: dead bodies: taking Milne's advice (Whenever Scientology makes factual claims about any domain of science, from physics to psychology, it falls flat on its face.) Date: 11 Oct 1995 22:35:45 GMT Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon Lines: 46 Message-ID: <45hgs1$ovk@casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: dst.boltz.cs.cmu.edu Church spokesman Andrew Milne, displaying an impressive recovery of rationality this past week, is actually confronting his critics now and trying to answer them with facts and citations. So let's follow his advice. Milne writes: > If one wants the true information about Scientology why not ask a >Scientologist? Okay. How about if I ask L. Ron Hubbard about the electrical properties of human corpses? Here is what Mr. Hubbard has to say on this topic: "Electrical resistance is measured in ohms. "The resistance of a dead female body is 5,000 ohms and of a dead male body, 12,500 ohms." -- from page 3 of "The Book INTRODUCING the E-METER", by L. Ron Hubbard, third edition, copyright 1966, 1968, 1983. New Era Publications ApS. Commentary: This "fact" is nonsense. The resistance of a corpse depends on a number of factors, including the state of decomposition. The notion that one can give a precise resistance value for a generic dead body is ridiculous. The notion that the values for male and female bodies would differ by a factor of precisely 2.5 is even more ridiculous. And assuming resistance is measured palm-to-palm, as when holding the cans of an E-meter, I believe the values cited are way too low. Whenever Scientology makes factual claims about any domain of science, from physics to psychology, it falls flat on its face. It's obvious that even as late as 1983, Hubbard didn't have a clue about how to do real scientific research. He reports results to three digits of precision (12,500 ohms = 1.25 x 10^4) when no details about measurement technique, sample size, or variance are given. Kids learn better habits than that in high school. A simple measurement of body resistance, which any medical student could easily make on a selection of corpses at the local hospital, proves too complex for L. Ron Hubbard to manage. And we're supposed to believe his reports of "research" on more complex issues, like the nature of the mind? Give me a break. -- Dave Touretzky, KoX (SP4), copyright scofflaw lurking under The Bridge. L. Ron Hubbard's TR 0 sez: "Blink if you must, but don't blink nervously." SCIENTOLOGY = FALSE MEMORY SYNDROME. http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Fishman

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