http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/05/127222.php

Please Post Story to the Newswire

Please post a story about the protest against the Minutemen in Garden Grove.

Author: Latinos Unidos
Posted: Wednesday May 25, 2005 02:16 PM

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LIARS

The person who "hit" the two protestors, who were attacking his vehicle, is not a part of the Minutemen. Fucking liars.

Author: Hellfire USA
Posted: Thursday May 26, 2005 02:01 AM -=-

racists?

If you think calling people who want to protect our borders racists is going to stop us, you're dead wrong. We don't care if you call us racist, because we know what you are up to. It won't work. Take the race card and shove it up your mexican ass. You're loyalties lie with Mexico, and not the United States. To me, that makes you a traitor. Just wait til we have "minutemen" on the borders of all states. Call us racist then, traitor assholes.

And heres another thing. You can't have the southwest U.S. back. It's OURS it belongs to AMERICA! If anyone tries, we'll annihilate them.

ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! eat it!

Author: Ed
Posted: Thursday May 26, 2005 02:13 AM

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FAKED TIRED TRACKS

These pictures have been touched-up with a photo program. There were no actual skid marks at the scene. I have video and eyewitness confirmation of that. Whoever took these photos added the skids marks for dramatic effect. I have also had to photoshop users confirm this photo is faked. This proves the lies and fraudulent nature of the protestors. You've been discredited.

Author: Hellfire USA
Posted: Thursday May 26, 2005 02:14 AM

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Join the Virtual Sit-In against the MinuteMen

SWARM the Minutemen - May 27th to May 29th (2005)

We invite people from all over the world who oppose racist violence to join the Electronic Disturbance Theatre action on May 27th, 28th and 29th, 2005 to engage in a virtual sit-in on the MinuteMen website during their "Unite to Fight" Summit.

SWARM the Minutemen Invita gente desde todo el mundo quien estan contra la violencia racista a una el accion de Electronic Disturbance Theatre en el 27, 28 y 29 de Mayo, 2005 para un "virtual sit-in" el el sitio de web de los MinuteMen durante sus conferencia de "Unate para Pelear".

Complete call to action here:

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/05/127112.php

For more info see http://swarmtheminutemen.com/

Author: SWARM the Minutemen
Posted: Thursday May 26, 2005 03:23 AM

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crybabies

Didn't your moms teach you not to play in the driveway? Too bad a couple people got hurt, but please, what do you expect when you go jumping and pounding on cars?

Author: CitizenJ
Posted: Thursday May 26, 2005 03:54 AM

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borders are arbitrary

this fiasco isn't about people protecting "their country" or "their borders" this is about wacko right-wingers with too much time on their hands.

when people from s. america or other countries come to america it's not because they're out to steal our jobs or breed with our women or whatever you crazy middle america wackos believe. they come here to better the lives of themselves and their families. they are willing to travel thousands of miles to escape political persecution, hunger, poverty, etc. they are rational enough to realize that the u.s. provides access to more opportunities than they would ever experience than in their home countries. they are intelligent people who want a better life. i simply cannot find anything wrong with this.

i find it completely freakin insane that we have hundreds to thousands of people patrolling down there in the south west to prevent some of the most economically productive, family oriented and god loving people [in the world] from entering our great country! this is insane.

my ancestors came from ireland generations ago. surely they were persecuted in a north eastern harbor city for the same reasons that foreigners are discriminated against today. as time would show, the irish have now spread to every rank, facet, tier, occupation and religious affiliation in america.

i implore the "minute men" on the border to 1.) get to know the "heathens" they're trying to prevent from coming here. You might be surprised how much we all have in common. whether we speak to them in spanish, spanglish or english, there's so much to learn from one another. 2.) travel to various s. american countries! find out why these people want to leave their native lands.

hope this helped.

god bless all of you.

Author: sean
Posted: Thursday May 26, 2005 05:27 AM

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racists are going to die if they attack.the earth is waking up.

Author: o
Posted: Thursday May 26, 2005 05:47 AM

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OneEyedMan

...yeah, you crybabies, you only got hit by a minivan...

...it isn't like it was something lethal....like a water bottle.

Author: KPC
Posted: Thursday May 26, 2005 05:58 AM

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Thank You 1 Planet 1 People

Thank you very much for your photos and your report. You made the front page of US Indy Media:

http://indymedia.us/en/index.shtml

Author: Latinos Unidos
Posted: Thursday May 26, 2005 07:28 AM

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No borders

Sean suggested "travel to various s. american countries! find out why these people want to leave their native lands."

I have. These countries don't have the US Constitution, instead they have extensive corruption, oppression, and racism. That is why these people leave their native lands.

To solve this, instead of bringing all these people to the US, why not bring the US to them? I think the US should annex Mexico and Central America. After all, that is what they want isn't it? US equal rights, opportunity and the rule of law instead of extensive corruption. Let's give it to them in their native lands.

At the same time of course this would erase borders like everyone here seems to want.

Author: ARVN
Posted: Thursday May 26, 2005 07:59 AM

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Ignorant Jackholes

As always, what right wingers lack in knowledge they make up for with bile. If you think Latin America is currupt because they don't have constitution then you know only what your racist jr. high school history text told you. Here's a list of where to bone up your understanding: Monroe Doctrine; Neo-Liberalism; "Free Trade Zones;" Arbenz; the Sandinistas; Arch Bishop Romero; the School of the Americas; NAFTA; Eduardo Galeano; and battalion 316. But I know you probably wont. Its to easy to continue talking out of your ass when thats where your head already is.

Author: Cesar
Posted: Thursday May 26, 2005 09:09 AM

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You want the raws?

When I posted these, I only had time to put them up right from my cammera and did not have time to even resize them. You can also look at the timeline in my photo essay of the events. There was simply no time to do any faking. Here is the original post....

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/05/127213.php

Next time do your research. When your claims are so easly proved wrong, well it makes you look like an idiot.

Author: 1Planet1People
Link: la.indymedia.org/news/2005/05/127213.php
Posted: Thursday May 26, 2005 11:44 AM

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Verified Skid Marks

RealVideo: stream with RealPlayer or download RM file (5.5 mebibytes)

This proves beyond a reasonable doubt that the skid marks are NOT faked! These right wing wackos will ignore the truth even when it is staring them in the face.

Author: 1Planet1People
Posted: Thursday May 26, 2005 06:05 PM

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OneEyedMan

....whadda douchebag....probably can't even see over the steering wheel unless you sit on a phone book or two....

Author: KPC
Posted: Friday May 27, 2005 04:03 AM

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Short econ thing

(My hand is messed up, so this is short.)

Normal citizen consumes public and private resources from 0 to 18 years old. Is a productive worker from 18 to 70. Then consumes, and dies.

Immigrant... consumes resources elsewhere until they migrate. Then they are productive until 70. Then consumes, and dies.

"Illegal" immigrant... consumes resources elsewhere until they migrate. Then they are productive while here. Then they leave, and die elsewhere.

All people of working age support themselves, PLUS all other people who are consuming without producing.

Therefore, before adjusting for anything like public health costs and money sent home, "illegal immigrants" start off as the group contributing the MOST to society, and taking the least.

Author: johnk
Posted: Friday May 27, 2005 04:18 AM

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Fox is the most American president Mexico has had

His dad was an American. He was educated in America. He's a conservative neoliberal. He even seems to have a little of the old White supremacist in him with that comment about African Americans.

Why don't the MM love him?

Author: johnk
Posted: Friday May 27, 2005 04:22 AM

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Hey, OneEyedPinche!

Six foot four, 240 lb. "coconut", with nice clean shaved head, proudly holding the US flag.

Look me up the next time.

You anarchists, Aztlan comic book heroes, morons, socialists, liberals ... but I am repeating myself!

You fellows seem to be a bit antsy these days?!?!

Bet it's just the skidmarks in your BVDs from the Santa Ana police horses ...

Author: hector
Posted: Friday May 27, 2005 05:48 AM

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Sgt.

Hector -Right on!

Alvin

Author: TioTaco
Posted: Friday May 27, 2005 06:37 AM

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Ever hear of legal ports of entry?

Your Irish ancestors most likely used a legal port of entry. Illegal aliens have not followed the laws of our land. This is an important distinction to make.

Author: S. Duncan
Posted: Friday May 27, 2005 12:50 PM

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There have always been illegal aliens

That word "wop" is an acronym for With Out Papers. It was used in reference to Jews, Italians, and Irish. Later, it stuck to the Italians.

I've worked with some European illegal aliens, so, get over yourselves.

Author: johnk
Posted: Friday May 27, 2005 04:10 PM

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Easy to say

For years, we allowed as many people from places like Ireland to come here as wanted too. Hell, they 'paid' my family to come. The difference, we were white and mexican's aren't. Time to balance things out,

Author: 1Planet1People
Posted: Friday May 27, 2005 11:03 PM

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the one[s] that advobate violence as anything but self defense are usually the ____________________________ ( fill in agency or dept. ) thank you.

this is real, not a drill.

thank you.

Author: tomot
Posted: Saturday May 28, 2005 05:10 AM

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Silly right-winger

"Stupid, violent, hypocritical, retarded libs can go f*ck themselves."

Liberals ain't violent.

Stupid muhfuka can't even get his stereotypes right.

Author: nike chiapas
Posted: Saturday May 28, 2005 06:12 AM

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Liberals, Conservatives, and the Wizard of Oz

I have to disagree. Clinton was a liberal, and he was very violent. Matter in fact, most democrats and republicans that make it to Washington are terrorists, or at least support them.

That said, I agree when people start talking about violence, they are usually a cop trying to set up a place to get busted. They try to justify harassment by posting something that would give them the excuse.

Author: 1Planet1People
Posted: Saturday May 28, 2005 10:22 AM

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Mr

So there are day old skid marks....did you notice they dont match the body positoin.....and if someone were doing fast enough to produce skid marks like that....there wouldn't be anything left of that "legal" protestor to pick up.....

In your own words.....these left wing nuts will do anything.......

Author: Legal Immigration is not "hatred"
Posted: Saturday May 28, 2005 12:19 PM

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Those aren't skid marks

Uh, guys. Those aren't skid marks. Sheesh.

Author: Joe
Posted: Saturday May 28, 2005 02:26 PM

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THe TRUTH

With only one person with "minor injuries"...and video tape proving hal's innocense... whats your case? The police our on Hal's side.... Go ahead and preach conspiracy...the worlds out to get us now....

Netkin was released after police watched a videotape that showed protesters surrounding the vehicle, banging on it and refusing to move, said Garden Grove Police Lt. Mike Handfield. About 300 protesters at the scene were “trying to intimidate him and refused to let him pass,” Handfield said. By night’s end, five demonstrators had been arrested.

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The protesters blocked the entrance and tossed soda cans and cans packed with marbles at police and attendees, Handfield said. They kicked, banged and threw rocks at cars; some wore latex gloves and hoods so they wouldn’t be identified by police, Handfield said. Some attendees decided not to enter the building because they feared violence.

UnBIASED OUT

Author: Unbiased_VA
Posted: Sunday May 29, 2005 05:38 AM

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Re: THe TRUTH

Reality check: the cops say they have a video that exonerates them, so it must be true. Who's seen it? You, "Unbiased"?

We have witnesses, the cops have Handfield, so, according to the "Unbiased" comments, the demonstrators are liars, the cops are telling the truth.

"All politics put aside" my ass. Politics according to Unbiased_Va are that the police must be right be telling the truth because they're the police. I don't know anyone who's fallen for that one in forty years, except a few yokels up in the hills.

Author: The Morrígan
Posted: Sunday May 29, 2005 06:03 AM

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All photos are real....my apoligies to 1planet

I just want everyone to know that all photos are real... I used poor word usage by saying doctored... I meant to mean one sided... nonetheless... I'm sorry to 1planet , ...his photos are 100 percent real!!!

Unbiased OUT

Author: Unbiased_VA
Posted: Sunday May 29, 2005 06:16 AM

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Re: Racist?

Hmm… no… your not racist, not at all...

Lets see,

“we know what YOU ARE up to”

“take the race card and shove it up your Mexican ass” (not just ass mind you) “loyalties… mexico” how does he know your Hispanic, Mexican, etc. and where your loyalties are?

“southwest us back, its ours, it belongs to America” just another asshole who things the term America belongs to the USA what a dip-shit

“minutemen on the boards of all states?” Got news for this guy… We already know your coming to Texas, and where gunna give ya’ll a warm welcome you aint never gunna forget! So HA HA HA TO YOU BITCH!!!

Author: Rev. Vegan Stephen
Posted: Monday May 30, 2005 05:23 PM

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Too bad he didnt kill them...and more.

These stupid fuckers need to die...we shouldnt have to run them over with our cars. This is an invading army were dealing with!

When do we get to start using the bullets?

Author: metro
Posted: Monday May 30, 2005 11:38 PM

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I don't give a flying fart ... they got off lucky.

Author: John
Posted: Tuesday May 31, 2005 04:21 AM