http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/05/127256.php
Minutemen Car Hits 4 Protestors - 8 Felony Charges
Chican@ protestors + allies show fierce determination in the
face of attempted murder by Minutemen and brutal suppression
by police.
This is serious.
This is not an "objective" report - but a sketchy, ground eye
view of what occurred from someone bent on organizing - not
reporting.
But I am writing from a place of rage tempered by a steely
determination. What I am writing is the truth.
It is important to note here that the LA Times story tonight is
a complete fabrication, and a transparent and racist attempt to
completely invert the story, so that Mexican-hunting Minutemen
vigilantes look like normal citizens and their crimes look like
frustrated outrage at Chican@ protestor's supposed excesses.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
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We need to look this situation right in the eye.
The Minutemen are bloodthirsty fascist thugs and racists -
potential stormtroopers who are backed by the State and its
police, and are an important part of the growing Christian
Fascist apparatus. What we saw tonite was an effort at the
outright brutal suppression of the Chican@ People - up to and
including attempted murder.
What unfolded tonight amply demonstrates that point.
A Minuteman supporter was able to walk free for almost three
quarters of an hour after what some termed an attempted murder
of protestors, while innocent people on the other side of the
line were snatched up in brutal surgical police strikes.
But for hours, the people didn't bend an inch. They only gave
ground when met with overwhelming force - and even then, they
held the line until having their ranks cut in two twice by
baton wielding rioters in uniform.
Three hundred protestors - overwhelmingly young and Chican@
(again, like in Baldwin Park, our white Left "allies" were
in scant supply) - gathered tonite in Garden Grove determined
to take on the Minutemen.
We outnumbered the racist vigilante wannabes three to one.
Not the ten to one we had in Baldwin Park to shut down the Save
Our State fascists ten days ago, but not bad. Especially not bad
for a protest behind the Orange Curtain.
Police had cordoned off the entire area - leaving only one driveway
open for cars manned by the Terminator's "exemplary citizens" to
enter the compound where the gun toting Mexican-hunter Jim
Gilchrist was to speak.
Early in the evening - contrary to the LA Times "report," which
set the event at the end of the evening, hours after it occured
- and which claimed protestors had, in effect, provoked being
run over by trying to stop cars leaving the event, protestors
were marching across that driveway when, just before dusk, a
Minutemen supporter wheeled in from the street without stopping -
striking at least five people, two of who were taken to the
hospital.
The driver struck the people with a dark green Dodge Caravan,
license plate number 4KVE303.
Intitially - for a period of some 45 minutes - NO ONE WAS ARRESTED
for this crime, while paramedics bent over the two who remained
down. One man had blood on his clothing, but apparently was later
released from the hospital.
A young Asian woman said that what shocked her was the absolute
force of the vehicle as it blew her to the ground. She and a
friend were hit by the side of the vehicle - which did not stop.
She said she yelled to her friend to move his feet, and that
the rear wheels missed running over their feet by mere inches.
A visibly shaken white woman - a member of Global Women's Strike - later filed
charges against the driver for striking her with the car, as protestors
gathered outside the police station to demand the release of those arrested.
One policeman was overheard trying to convince her that the incident might
have been an "accident."
National Lawyer's Guild observers took statements from many
witnesses.
Protestors chanted "Arrest the racists, not the people! and "Arrest
the driver." After word spread that the driver had at last been
taken into custody - only to be charged mere assault and battery -
a misdemeanor, protestors chanted "Assault with a deadly weapon!"
Nothing could quiet the righteous sense of outrage and determination
of the protestors in the face of such intense violence and smug and
filthy indifference to justice.
After it became clear that we weren't backing down an inch the
police told a National Lawyer's Guild observer that the driver
would be charged with assault with a deadly weapon, after all.
That remains, of course, to be seen. One thing's for sure - you
won't see any headlines about Minutemen "terrorists."
A handful of the racist stormtrooper wannabes stood behind the
police lines taunting and mocking the protestors even as their
comrades lay stricken on the concrete, waving an American flag
and doing their best to act jaunty and smug. One of these
clowns - something of a Gilchrist look alike - wore an oversized
black cowboy hat and an amazingly gaudy American flag tie with a
black leather cowboy vest. Media interviewed him while our
camaradas lay on the ground.
In the meantime, Garden Grove Police showed no such slowness in
arresting protestors. One Chicano man - a MEChA leader - was
standing with his back to the police and among the peaceful
protestors during a momentary lull in the events, when an arm
suddenly shot out from behind him in the crowd, grabbing and
pulling him back across the police line, where he disappeared
from sight until he was later seen cuffed and being shoved
into a police van in a nearby parking lot. This man was charged,
according to a police sargent, with a felony, as were seven
others being held.
In another brutal strike riot pigs swept in from behind the crowd,
swinging batons beating him and threatening the crowd with pepper
spray, to sieze a single man - apparently an anarchist, who had
been doing nothing at all, according to several witnesses.
Beautifully, many of those around him stepped forward, not back and
away from the batons and spray, to defend him, one woman reaching
for him from behind a cop and from between his feet.
By the time the Nazi-fest was over, protestors blocked both exits,
ready for what might come. Only when protestors were forced back
by a line of helmeted cops on horseback were the MinuteNazis able
to exit, after a delay of some 15 minutes or more.
However its reported, tonight was a victory for the Chican@
People and our brave Asian and white allies. The Minutemen showed
the desparation and tactical stupidity that underlies their empty
bravado and swaggernig.
The police, while surprising no one, made it abundantly clear
that their allegiance and service lies with the neo-Nazis in
the White House and the Governor's Mansion and with the Minutemen.
And our People made it clear that we will not go quietly -
that we will fight with complete determination to drive the
fascists out, and back, no matter what it takes.
Author: Chicomozteca
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7 were arrested??
hi--so, there were 7 people arrested? i thought it was five,
thanks for the clarification...
Author: phuk minutemen
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Join the Virtual Sit-In against the MinuteMen
SWARM the Minutemen - May 27th to May 29th (2005)
We invite people from all over the world who oppose racist violence
to join the Electronic Disturbance Theatre action on May 27th,
28th and 29th, 2005 to engage in a virtual sit-in on the MinuteMen
website during their "Unite to Fight" Summit.
SWARM the Minutemen Invita gente desde todo el mundo quien estan
contra la violencia racista a una el accion de Electronic
Disturbance Theatre en el 27, 28 y 29 de Mayo, 2005 para un
"virtual sit-in" el el sitio de web de los MinuteMen durante
sus conferencia de "Unate para Pelear".
Complete call to action here:
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/05/127112.php
For more info see http://swarmtheminutemen.com/
Author: SWARM the Minutemen
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Meaning of Chican@
Chicano@ is short for Chicano/Chicana (the @ sign looks like an
O superimposed upon an A). A Chican@ is a person of Mexican
descent who is living in the United States. A Chican@ who
describes him or her self using that term is usually someone
with a consciousness and respect for his or her own heritage.
See, now you've learned something.
Author: Educator
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ANARCHIST?
The guy that was an "anarchist" and got arrested is not an
anarchist. We got attacked by the cops because we were wearing
bandanas on our faces. WHAT THE HELL DO THEY EXPECT? for us to
show our faces so when we walk down the street they can attack
us? They fear people that cover their faces because since
they are always all up on our privacy, they feel out of
control. SCREW THOSE NAZI'S. we won't go!!! we will continue
to fight. AND K.I. WIll not give up on his trial because
he did not do anythinbg at all.
Author: TLALLI
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Ms
Wonderfully written article, thank you so much!
Author: Jesenia
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Valley Dingbat Hal Netkin Dives Car Into Crowd
Netkin arrested
Valley dingbat Hal Netkin ran a phone bank during the mayoral
election that called voters with automated anti-Villaraigosa
messages. He's obsessed with immigrants and the mayor-elect,
and on his website calls Villaraigosa "the MECHista mayor
who virtually takes his orders from Mexico City." So, no
surprise, Netkin is the guy who was arrested last night in
Orange County for driving his van into a crowd of Latinos
protesting an appearance by the head of the Minuteman Project.
Author: LA Observed
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REAL Minutemen Defending Their Homeland
fallujahminuteman255x375.gifs95oyt.gif, image/gif, 255x375
Compare and contrast real minutemen--defending their homes,
towns, and loved ones from Bush's murderous occupiers--with
America's immigrant-bashing beer belly brigade.
Author: Don't Tread On Me
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victory
we will keep pushin' expose state violence!
Author: ,
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What Idiots!
If you stupid assholes didn't stand in front of MOVING vehicles,
you wouldn;t get hurt! Dumb asses!!! They got what they
deserved for being STUPID.
Author: Illegal Alien Hunter
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gracias
thanks for being there as protestors, it means alot to me and
the whole world... its insane what is happening
Author: arcoiris
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Re: Illegal Alien Hunter
You are fucking hilarious in the most pathetic way. Bush bankrupts
the country, and all your nimble little mind can do is scapegoat
immigrants. I suppose standing at the border with guns aimed
south is the Christian way to do things, right? How many
immigrants would Jesus kill?
You should wake up to tha fact that globalization pits laborers
from all countries against each other, so Bush and his ilk can
make another billion$. Your job is next on the globalization
chop block, chump. Immigration, legal or illicit, is not the
issue. Securing workers' rights globally is.
Author: Don't Tread On Me
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Netkin must be stopped
If he gets away with this, then the other Netkins out there will
feel free to drive into protests, if they think the local PD are
"on their side."
Author: just a reader
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show up for victorville
Nonviolent Protest Against SOS Needs Your support
The following was found on the save our state website
(http://www.saveourstate.com)please help to counterprotest this
extremist group by appearing for a nonviolent protest.
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Home Depot: Selling Out America For A Buck!
For too long, Americans have sat back and watched Home Depot betray
their nation with their support of illegal alien day laborers through
their sponsorship of numerous day labor centers and by making alliances
with racist, anti-American organizations like the National Council of La
Raza.
Professor Abel Valenzuela concluded that over 90% of all day laborers in
Southern California entered this country illegally. However, in pursuit
of the almighty dollar, Home Depot criminally violates federal laws
prohibiting the aiding and abetting of illegal aliens by sponsoring and
supporting the establishment of day labor hiring centers throughout the
United States.
Home Depot flagrantly lobbies local governments, donates land, provides
supplies and materials for the building of the centers, provides funding
for staff positions and even allows non-profit organizations to build
centers in their parking lots. As a result of Home Depot’s actions,
cities all across America are initiating plans to establish their own
day labor centers, despite the fact that these facilities are in direct
violation of the law.
In Glendale, California, Home Depot agreed to provide the construction
materials, a portable trailer and funding for a staff position. Their
total commitment amounted to over $50,000 per year for that facility.
In Los Angeles, Home Depot has partnered with the Coalition for Humane
Immigrants Rights Los Angeles (CHIRLA) and actually allowed them to
establish a day labor center in their parking lot.
In Burbank, California, Home Depot agreed to build a facility for day
laborers.
Rialto, California recently agreed to spend $40,000 in taxpayer money to
build a day labor center in a Home Depot parking lot.
In Atlanta, Home Depot executives agreed to fund the building of a day
labor center.
This is only a partial list detailing their transgressions against the
American people.
Furthermore, we have yet to discuss the links between Home Depot and the
National Council of La Raza, an anti-American organization that supports
open borders, amnesty and drivers’ licenses for illegal aliens. La Raza
is in bed with a violent racist and separatist organization called MEChA.
If you investigate La Raza’s Form 990 tax filing (page 36), you will
find that this organization has contributed money to the MEChA
organization. They have specifically supported the Georgetown University
chapter and you will be shocked at some of the things you will find on
the chapter's website. Even more shocking is that this isn't a case of a
loose cannon giving the rest of MEChA a bad name. Read the national
constitution for yourself.
MEChA is a militant, violent and racist organization with a separatist
agenda. Their motto is: “For those of our race, everything. For those
outside of it, nothing.” This organization believes that the southwest
United States (Aztlan) was stolen from Mexico. In the preamble of their
national constitution, their stated purpose is to “[liberate] Aztlan.”
Their leadership has promoted and encouraged violence in the past. In
one instance, over $500,000 in damage resulted from a MEChA riot on the
UCLA campus in protests demanding the addition of a Chicano Studies
department. In another instance, MEChA members attacked Americans
protesting at an anti-illegal immigration rally.
California State Northridge Professor Randy Acuna, a self-proclaimed
socialist and MEChA advisor stated, “Chicanos have to get a lot more
militant about defending our rights.” Acuna is the author of Occupied
America, one of the most popular Chicano Studies texts in the nation,
and has proclaimed that Chicanos are living in the “Nazi United States
of America.”
Another CSU Northridge Mechista proclaimed: “The ultimate ideology is
the liberation of Aztlan” and that “non-Chicanos would have to be
expelled ...opposition groups would be quashed because you have to keep
the power.”
If Home Depot were to partner with the KKK, the corporation would be
resoundingly rebuked. We call on Home Depot to abide by federal laws and
to renounce its partnership and affiliation with anti-American groups
like the National Council of La Raza.
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please foreward to other concerned parties.
Author: gman
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to: Illegal Alien Hunter
Right: If Jews hadn't stood in the ovens they wouldn't have been
burned or gassed either, eh?
If we as Indians hadn't been in America you wouldn't have stolen
our land and murdered 120 million of us across the hemisphere, eh?
If Mexicans aren't standing in front of your guns we won't get
shot, either, eh?
Get ready motherfucker.
The day is coming.
Minuteman Hunter
What Idiots!
If you stupid assholes didn't stand in front of MOVING vehicles,
you wouldn;t get hurt! Dumb asses!!! They got what they deserved
for being STUPID.
Author: Illegal Alien Hunter
Author: MINUTEMAN HUNTER
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Mr
Is this supposed to be news?
The statements in this article are completely inaccurate. I was THERE!!
Please don't hurt the cause by giving out false information on
which to challenge the credibilty of our position.
You do us all a diservice!
Author: Daniel Gomez
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Awesome
AMAZING!
Great report and an excellent job protesting. Just want you guys
to know you have support up here in Portland. I would have loved
to have been there showing you support..
Author: Phil
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Where are the pictures
If your goal is to harm the Minutemen, you should simply take
pictures of all who enter their meetings (presuming they only
put their white hoods on after they get inside) and post
those pictures on the internet.
Start a whole new blog of attempting to figure out who these
people are. Make their association with these idiots a
nightmare, and they will stop showing up.
Author: AndrewMorrison
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Fabricated and untrue
I know from personal witnesses that this report is completely
fabricated! Hal Netkin's car was being attacked, his car wipers
were torn off and his windows were being pounded on. His car
was surrounded by yelling and some violent protestors...so in
fear of not being taken out of his car as in previous riots.
Hal Netkin slowly tried moving away. All injuries were
exaggerated and nothing was serious. The reason he was
not charged is because he did nothing wrong. He was a
scared old man. The protest was out of hand... it is a shame
that those who were hurt because they couldn't protest
peacefully. If your car was surrounded and people yelling
and beating down on your windows... I ask you, what would you do?
Author: Unbiased_Va
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Re: "Fabricated and Untrue"
Protestors were not able to get within yards of any exiting vehicle
at the end of the event, but were driven back as a corridor was
established by police to allow the cars to exit.
Since police were arresting antiNazi demonstrators (us), and letting
Nazis (you) wander free no matter what their crime, it would seem
that any number of people would have been brutally arrested on
the spot in the phony scenario you picture.
But that did not happen, did it?
No one has been charged with attacking Netkin or his car, have they?
The photos show that the police lied about the event - claiming it
occurred at night - not in broad daylight, and after the event,
not before it.
You brutal murdering racist Nazis act like the "animals" and
"savages" you try to paint the Chican@ and Mexican@ People as.
Some woman gets hit with a plastic water bottle in Baldwin
Park and you claim it as a sign of brute savagery.
One of your own attempts murder, and you also claim _that_ as a
sign of our "savagery." Of course it can't be you _own_
"savagery," can it?
Needless to say, the White Nation is consistent. You stole our
land and committed genocide against us using the claim we were
savages, and now, you're getting ready for another round of
genocide, using the same filthy lies.
We got your game.
Author: Chicomozteca
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Re: "Fabricated and Untrue"
Protestors were not able to get within yards of any exiting
vehicle at the end of the event, but were driven back as a
corridor was established by police to allow the cars to exit.
Since police were arresting antiNazi demonstrators (us), and
letting Nazis (you) wander free no matter what their crime, it
would seem that any number of people would have been brutally
arrested on the spot in the phony scenario you picture.
But that did not happen, did it?
No one has been charged with attacking Netkin or his car, have they?
The photos show that the police lied about the event - claiming
it occurred at night - not in broad daylight, and after the
event, not before it.
You brutal murdering racist Nazis act like the "animals" and
"savages" you try to paint the Chican@ and Mexican@ People as.
Some woman gets hit with a plastic water bottle in Baldwin
Park and you claim it as a sign of brute savagery.
One of your own attempts murder, and you also claim _that_ as
a sign of our "savagery." Of course it can't be you _own_
"savagery," can it?
Needless to say, the White Nation is consistent. You stole
our land and committed genocide against us using the claim we
were savages, and now, you're getting ready for another round
of genocide, using the same filthy lies.
We got your game.
Author: Chicomozteca
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Have you seen the videotape?
All politics put aside, watch the videotape... Stop your rabid
name calling, its only a reflection upon yourself. Only one
person was admitted to the hospitol from Hal's car with minor
injuries released only hours laters. You look at the pictures
from this site and it looks like a suicide bombing. An old man
felt threatened once his window was broken...therefore the
dismissed charges. All politics put aside... do correct
reporting... Peace and love will come....have patience...
and be peaceful
Author: Unbiased_Va
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Video Tape
If what you are saying is true, please post the video tape on
here. We already know that your witnesses are liars, they accused
me of doctoring photos saying that tire marks were not there, and
when I produced the video tape, it showed that they were lying
to try to make this seem not as bad as it was. While, your eye
witnesses have already been discredited, so why would anyone
believe them now? A videotape, on the other hand, is objective
evidence. Load it up (which I do not expect because I think
your fascist friends are full of ....). If not, then, we
will wait until court when we take possession of Hal's house,
van, and all his possessions. Wouldn't it be cool to make
his van into a day laborer commuter?
Author: 1Planet1People
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America revolts
1PLANET:
What is going to be cool, is seeing how all these illegal
immigrants, lose everything, they have illegally worked for.
We will be taking everything back that they have stolen.
Author: 1MOON
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Hal Netkkkin + the Video
There are claims that people rocked his van - but they are
seriously doubtful.
When Netkin slammed into the picketers, pulling in from the street
without stopping - in broad daylight - the police were ten feet away
in riot gear - it is not credible that they would have stood by
with people "pounding" on his car- especiallly given their viscious
treatment of protestors later in the night.
The GG police claim the van - and the running down of the protestors
- occured at the close of the event. This is a blatant fabrication.
All video of the people hit by the van are in broad daylight - not
in the dark, not _after_ the event.
Since the police lied about the time of the event there is no reason
to assume they didn't also lie about its cause.
In fact, given the phalanx of horses and riot pigs, there is no
way that protestors could have gotten anywhere near the van or
any other vehicle after the event.
I mean, YOU try busting through a line of 15 horses with riders in
helmets with clubs and see how far YOU get.
All this junk about the van being rocked is as big a lie as the
whole piece about a plastic water bottle hurting some woman's
brain in Baldwin Park.
It's just sheer fabrication and fantasy woven to sound "plausible."
Interestingly, none of the TV news coverage shows anything
remotely resembling a car being surrounded at any point.
In fact, they report that Netkins crime occurred as he was trying to
enter, not leave the event.
They apparently got their stories out before the GG police had a
chance to consolidate their lie, the lie the LA times later parroted,
and that you are parroting here.
Interestingly, the video footage of Netkin by the news reporters shows
that Netkin was in no way shaken or frightened. His attitude
is aggressive and confident, not scared.
I found the links on the racist site
http://americanpatrol.com/_WEB2005/050526.html
Author: Ixachilanka
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re: America Revolts
You'll "take back" everything Mexicans and Central Americans
worked for, hm?
Remember the confiscation of everything owned by the Jews in
Germany and the Japanese in California during WW2.
Sure you do.
Author: Ixachilanka
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Police VIDEO TAPE
Theres video tape confiming violent protestors throwing bags
full of marbles, kicking cars, surrounding cars.... Photos
can be doctored... video can not. All politics put aside...
.watch the video. Theres reasons why people aren't charged.
.. VIDEO can't lie. Police filmed it...its funny who you call
facists, when members of your group protesting lie on the
ground like a suicide bombing.... How many went to the
hospitol... only one had MINOR injuries... To 1 planet...
When the video is shown by police to you and your group
flimed by them comes out to you and court. Will you post
that you are wrong? Do you think the police would of
let him go otherwise? You wont post it because your
afraid of the truth. You seem like one of the peaceful
ones...but the crazy protestors ruined it for you. A
QUOTE " NETKIN WAS RELEASED AFTER POLICE WATCHED A VIDEOTAPE
THAT SHOWED PROTESTORS SURROUNDING THE VEHICLE, BANGING ON IT
AND REFUSING TO MOVE, SAID GARDEN GROVE POLICE LT. MIKE HANDFIELD.
ABOUT 300 PROTESTORS AT THE SCENE WERE "TRYING TO INTIMIDATE HIM
AND REFUSE TO LET HIM PASS, HANDFIELD SAID."
Good luck taking that to court 1planet.
For Peaceful Protest....
UNBIASED_VA OUT
Author: Unbiased_Va
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doctoring video
video certainly can be doctored. in fact, hollywood makes oodles
of money off of it. since social activists generally work on a
shoestring budget, and the US government has..... oodles of money,
i'd say that the liklihood of altered video is higher on the
government's side rather than that of those folks working for
social justice.
you might note that the government doesn't easily release video or
other evidence of their wrongdoing, either... the tend to only
release of bits of "evidence" that supports their fascist ideals.
Author: a videographer
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Not the Case... Hal will not be charged
Your absolutely correct, it can be doctored... but they show
everything... from hals car being "attacked" to the people
being hit. I suspose you want to make the accusation that it is
doctored...that will be up to the court. All politics put
aside... whomever is lying better realize there is videotape of
the issue. Minutemen or Anti-Minutemen... This is a horrible
situation that should of never of happened...
UNBIASED OUT
Author: Unbiased_VA
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Re: Police VIDEO TAPE
Reality check: the cops say they have a video that exonerates
them, so it must be true. Who's seen it? You, "Unbiased"?
We have witnesses, the cops have Handfield, so, according to the
"Unbiased" comments, the demonstrators are liars, the cops are
telling the truth.
"All politics put aside" my ass. Politics according to Unbiased_Va
are that the police must be right be telling the truth because
they're the police. I don't know anyone who's fallen for that
one in forty years, except a few yokels up in the hills.
Author: The Morrígan
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All photos are real...my apoliges to 1planet
I just want everyone to know that all photos are real... I used
poor word usage by saying doctored... I meant to mean one sided...
nonetheless... I'm sorry to 1planet , ...his photos are 100
percent real!!!
Unbiased OUT
Author: Unbiased_VA
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seizure of JA property
Japanese Americans on the West Coast did not have their property
confiscated. They were just put into a situation when many had to
sell their property. Also, laws in the state prohibited Asian
immigrants from owning property, so, for some, they didn't
really own much to confiscate. Many had farms on leased land,
which had often started out as some of the worst land, but
were repaired into arable land, and these farmlands were coveted
by other Californians.
There's actually another interesting confiscation of property
that happened in that time frame, when the government pressured
American Indians to give up their land rights in a massive
assimilation program to make them more "American" that, ultimately,
led to a large migration of people from their land. It was a
gentle form of "ethnic cleansing."
In both these situations, the issue of whether a group of people
had a "right" to exist where they had been existing was
challenged.
Definitions preceeded actions.
Author: johnk
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Video Doctoring
Video can be doctored, but you can tell it has been doctored by
reviewing the raw video. This is why the original ‘raw’ footage
is needed for court. Like I have said before, I was not there
when Hal hit the protestors, and if the truth is as you say,
then yes, I will confirm the truth. Currently, I do not believe
the police at all, their accounts of the night are so far off,
that everyone there (including the MM) completely discount it.
As for the cans of marbles (marbles aren't put in cans, if you
knew what they are used for, you would know that), cans full of
pop, bricks, and rocks. The cops state that these were being
thrown at cops, which sparked arrests of the protestors. I have
the video, and there are NO objects being thrown. I agree that
videos don't lie, and that is why we take them. There is no
doubt in my mind that these prisoners will beat their charges,
and we will win this.
A side note, I hope no one uses the marble tactic. The
'individuals' that these are intended to stop, often get hurt in
the process (many times costing them their lives). I am glad
that no one did this, and if anyone ever does, if can restrain
myself from attacking you myself, I will never stand with you,
or up for you. This is an inhumane tactic that is not
tolerable in any circumstance. If you don't know why it is
used, then I don't want to give it away. If you do, just
remember, don't hurt those that have no choices in the
matter. I cannot voice enough objections to this tactic,
and there are many of us out there that feel the same way.
Author: 1Planet1People
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