http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/05/127478.php

Rational Debate With A MM supporter

Winning over one person at a time. video: windows media at 5.0 mebibytes

In this clip you see a person come over and engage us to "convert us" into thinking in the way of the facists who are meeting. While after hours of engagement, he finally sees his error and renounces the Minutemen Project. Winning one person over at a time.

Author: 1Planet1People
Posted: Thursday May 26, 2005 09:08 PM

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Excellent coverage, thank you!

These are all good -- very good.

I want to move all of the information about these bigots over to The Dark Wind web site, created specifically for this information and hope you won't mind.

Right now the web pages aren't showing up properly but they will after I fix them.

Author: Fredric L. Rice
Posted: Friday May 27, 2005 04:12 AM

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Copyrights

Everything I produce or report on (video and pictures) is in the public domain. The only thing I request is that you don't make money off of them.

Author: 1Planet1People
Posted: Friday May 27, 2005 11:33 AM

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Copyrights

1Planet, don't do that. I think you can retract it.'

If it's public domain, someone CAN make money from it because you no longer own it. Instead, retain the copyright, but allow free distribution, and maybe modifications.

Author: johnk
Posted: Friday May 27, 2005 04:15 PM

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Technical stuff on Copyrights

The author of any posting can post and state the license in the text of their posting. This will be accepted as a legal document. Under current copyright law any media on the internet typically falls into one of these three groups:

1. Public Domain; no rights reserved.

2. Copyright; all rights reserved by the author.

3. Creative Commons license; some rights reserved.

With option 3 the author can state the conditions of use.

The NYC-IMC site has a good section for this when you post to their site, check it out for more info.

Author: LA-IMC Collective member
Posted: Saturday May 28, 2005 12:44 AM

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Copyrights

This is good to know. I think I have already messed up on the videos here. My only concern is that I don't want to make money doing this stuff, and if I don't make money on my stuff, I don't want some fascist capitalist making money off it.

So if I can revise it (I am not sure if I can) then let me say:

Reserved:

1. No Profits Allowed

2. You CAN sell this, so long as the proceeds go to:

1. Suing the Garden Grove Police Department

2. Legal defense fund of any protestor arrested for protesting the MM Project or the SOS group.

2. Stopping the MM project or the SOS group

3. You organization is Anarchist

4. It is for any of the indymedia projects

5. You get my permission

How is that for a copyright?

Author: 1Planet1People
Posted: Saturday May 28, 2005 01:19 AM

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That's all good

Looks like you are granting a Creative Commons license; some rights reserved, and with conditions for usage.

People are free to use the material if they follow the conditions you have set. If they do not follow your conditions then they have infringed on the copyrights you have reserved and you can sue them for that.

Author: LA-IMC Collective member
Posted: Saturday May 28, 2005 03:40 AM

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Technical stuff on Copyrights

The author of any posting can post and state the license in the text of their posting. This will be accepted as a legal document. Under current copyright law any media on the internet typically falls into one these three groups:

1. Public Domain; no rights reserved.

2. Copyright; all rights reserved by the author.

3. Creative Commons license; some rights reserved.

With option 3 the author can state the conditions of use.

The NYC-IMC site has a good section for this when you post to their site, check it out for more info.

Author: LA-IMC Collective member
Posted: Saturday May 28, 2005 03:46 AM