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Sen. Joseph Dunn of Garden Grove

contact this guy

Yesterday Senator Joseph Dunn (D) of Garden Grove appeared on the "Studio 2" program on CBS2 talking about his work to rectify the wrongs done to Mexican-Amercan US citizens in the 1930s who were illegally deported to Mexico because of job shortages during the Depression. He spoke about how dedicated he is to rectifying this historical injustice, to the point of reparations even. He stopped short of identifying racism as the reason why this history has been erased from the books, but I thought it might be good to contact this guy and see if he's willing to put his money where his mouth is and not just focus on symbolic gestures to fix past wrongs, but look at what's going on in his city right now. When asked why addressing this issue was so important to him, he said it was because of his largely Latino constituency in Garden Grove. Write him/contact him. Also contact CBS2 Studio2 program (Linda Chavez is one of the hosts).

http://democrats.sen.ca.gov/templates/SDCTemplate.asp?cp=MemberPage&pg=senhome&sln=Dunn&sdn=34&zrn=Zone/

Senator Dunn
Senate District 34

Capitol Office
State Capitol, Room 2080
Sacramento CA 95814
(916) 651-4034

District Office
12397 Lewis Street, #103
Garden Grove, CA 92840
(714) 705-1580
Fax (714) 705-1586

Author: raskache
Posted: Monday May 30, 2005 05:59 AM

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border patrol threat

when called and asked why the police attacks , he said ''we've got more guns than you'' , and then laughed like he was ''just joking''.well he made threats of gun violence against ''protestors''. his number 1 800 600 8642. BORDER PATROL alert all your comrades

Author: u
Posted: Monday May 30, 2005 07:39 AM

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Work on him gently

The linkage between the deportation of Americans, and the current push to deport undocumented Mexicans is direct.

If the pressure to deport increases again, it means that Americans may start to get deported again. Before that happens, the entire "alien appearing" community will be forced to carry some form of ID, and register in a police or INS database.

Author: johnk
Posted: Monday May 30, 2005 10:19 AM

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More fucking Bullshit

My Hispanic family was living in the American southwest at this time now why weren't they DEPORTED?

Because they were LEGAL.

The Mexicans that were deported were deported because they were ILLEGAL.

More Bullshit from La Fucking Raza!

Author: Tired of illegal aliens
Posted: Monday May 30, 2005 12:09 PM

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Decade of betrayal

no doubt, be gentle with him, could be a very helpful ally.

In the Studio 2 piece, Dunn cited his interest in this issue as stemming from a book called "Decade of Betrayal" which detailed the illegal deportation of about 2 million Latinos.

Unfortunately for us, maybe, the previous poster's family was one of the lucky who were not deported. Maybe if they had been, s/he'd be less of an ignorant reactionary dope/dupe.

One of the most interesting statistics that Dunn brought up from the book had to do with WWII vets (and another parallel to today, john): of the many AMERICAN citizens illegally deported to Mexico and then DRAFTED into service to fight for the United States in WWII, NOT ONE FAILED TO SHOW UP FOR DUTY. These young men, who had been ILLEGALLY deported out of the United States and into a country foreign to them, many up to a decade before the draft, complied with their draft notices ten years later and RETURNED to the U.S. to defend it. Talk about "patriotism."

Is that some of the "bullshit" you're tired of, culero?

here's a recent article about the senator and the book:

CA: Lawmaker trying again to address 1930's deportations [to Mexico] AP - San Luis Obispo Tribune ^ | May. 15, 2005 | STEVE LAWRENCE

Posted on 05/15/2005 7:15:20 PM PDT by calcowgirl at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1403814/posts

SACRAMENTO - An Orange County lawmaker is trying again to make amends for a shocking but little known episode in American history - one he discovered because he wanted a book to read on a cross-country flight.

"Decade of Betrayal" tells the story of the deportation of about 2 million Hispanics, including 400,000 Californians, to Mexico between 1929 and 1944. An aide gave it to state Sen. Joe Dunn, D-Garden Grove, about four years ago and he grabbed it to read on a trip to the East Coast.

"I was blown away by it," he said in a recent interview. "It was a chapter of American history that I'd never ever heard a thing about. I was shocked to read about it."

The program was started by the Hoover administration, supposedly as a way to get rid of illegal immigrants and open up jobs during the Depression. But the overwhelming majority of the people shipped to Mexico were American citizens or legal immigrants, Dunn said.

Some were able to return because they were drafted to fight for the United States in World War II.

A number of states, including California, continued the deportations even after the Roosevelt administration cut off funding for them, Dunn said. Los Angeles County was particularly active, with county supervisors overriding legality concerns raised by the county counsel.

"Anybody that had a Mexican sounding name was literally taken from their beds and shipped to Mexico," Dunn said.

Dunn responded with bills to give the victims of the deportation a new opportunity to file lawsuits seeking damages and to set up a state commission to recommend how to redress the wrongs suffered by the deportees.

Former Gov. Gray Davis vetoed the lawsuit bill in 2003 shortly before he was forced from office by a recall election. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger turned down the commission legislation last year.

This year Dunn has introduced a bill that would create the redress commission, a window for lawsuits and a fund to pay reparations to surviving deportees who file claims. It would take separate legislation, however, to put money in that account.

He's also introduced a second bill that would express a state apology for the episode and require placement of a plaque commemorating the deportees.

Dunn said he separated the proposals into two bills because he's convinced Schwarzenegger will veto the reparations measure, and he wants the state to take at least a symbolic step while some of the California deportees are still alive.

"At the very least the state ought to, before the last survivor passes away, formally apologize for its role in the deportation of U.S. citizens for one reason - they were of Mexican decent," he said.

Schwarzenegger hasn't taken a position on either bill, his office said.

The apology bill is scheduled to be considered Monday by the Senate Appropriations Committee. The reparations bill is awaiting a hearing in the same committee.

Author: raskache
Posted: Monday May 30, 2005 01:51 PM

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More Bullshit from La Raza

Hundreds of my Hispanic familia was living in the American southwest and NOT ONE was deported nor did they ever even feel intimidation!

They saw all the illegal Mexicans being deported, was it sad? You bet it was but they shouldn't have been here in the first place. Now you want money for being here illegally? Bull shit!

Mexicanos were deported because they entered illegally! You are liars to the core and you will be hated throughout the United States as you already are hated BIGTIME!

Author: I am very aware
Posted: Tuesday May 31, 2005 02:29 AM

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Restition for illegals?

"One of the most interesting statistics that Dunn brought up from the book had to do with WWII vets (and another parallel to today, john): of the many AMERICAN citizens illegally deported to Mexico and then DRAFTED into service to fight for the United States in WWII, NOT ONE FAILED TO SHOW UP FOR DUTY. These young men, who had been ILLEGALLY deported out of the United States and into a country foreign to them, many up to a decade before the draft, complied with their draft notices ten years later and RETURNED to the U.S. to defend it. Talk about "patriotism."

Is that some of the "bullshit" you're tired of, culero?"

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If they showed up isn't it reliable to state that it was for their own quest for citizenship?

OK, if there were some illegal deportations---I would expect justice, but why wasn't even one relative of mine deported? Can you answer that?

Not one.

And there were many of us in those day as my ancestors had large families.

Yet no one was taken away?????

Face it, like today illegals they probably spit out babies as anchors. I guess back then it didn't work as well right?

We Americans (Hispanics also) are sick of your anti-American bullshit and your violence towards Americans.

And you are receving the reputaion your deserve.

YOU ARE ONE HATED FUCKING GROUP!

GO HOME AND FIX YOUR CESSPOOL.

Author: I am very aware
Posted: Tuesday May 31, 2005 02:37 AM

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it's obvious

it's obvious, pendejo/a--they must have kept your family around because they were all racist bigot self-haters like you.

na I'm just kidding with you, don't get all feelings.

I'm sure ALL your family aren't racists and bigots like you.

anectdotal arguments are one of the common logical fallacies employed by people like you who are unfortunate enough to not have truth on their side and/or too lazy to look at real truth and historical evidence and fact. ad hominem attacks are another popular tactic that substitutes for rational argument based on fact. Instead of investigating the truth for yourself, it's easier to just call everyone who disagrees with you a "liar." I don't know man, I think you're the one whose pants are on fire. I think I smell your chonis stewing in the grog pot of your ignorance.

Here is a parallel of your logic: I have several Jewish friends whose families fled Europe during WWII. According to your logic, I would cite my knowing these people as evidence that the Holocaust didn't actually happen--I mean if it had, then how would I know all these Jews who weren't incinerated?

Oh wait I forgot--the white supremacists whose ideas and ideologies you align yourself with actually DO claim the Holocaust never happened.

Never mind, I forgot how your logic works.

Carry on. Permission granted to crawl back into your cave of ignorance. Go back to reading your Richard Rodriguez cuentos.

Author: raskache
Posted: Tuesday May 31, 2005 06:13 AM

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Interesting contrasts between participants

There are 21 discussion forums currently on the LA IndyMedia web site covering opposition to the racists, and in all such forums, there's a stark contrast between the anti-race hate participants, and the "Save Our State" / "Minutemen" / Whatever racists.

When an anti-race hate participant posts, he or she does so rationally, calmly, with peaceful respect, often offering verifiable references and sound judgement -- such as we see here with the quote from (ironically enopugh) Free Republic.

On the other hand, when the "worthy opposition" posts, it's very often an expression of violence, hatred, spit-spewing bigotry with the abject and unthinking denial of all available evidence -- such as we see here from the clown who ignored the evidence that American citizens were deported and unthinkingly, glibly drew a deep breath, blinked his eyes, and reitterated his stupid spew about how they were all some how illegal aliens anyway.

The most compelling aspect of the contrast between the good guys and the racists in all these forums has been the utter lack of violence, the total embrace of reason, and the peaceful sanity among the anti-race hate participants. Then you read the SOS / Minutemen / Whatever defenders and supporters and the rhetoric of violence, hatred, and bigotry virtually screams from the screen.

It's not so funny but it _is_ ironic. The racists try to proclaim that they're only against _illegal_ aliens, not against all Mexicans. Their postings, words, and actions prove otherwise. The fact that they're not assaulting people along the Canadian border proves otherwise. The fact that they're assaulting American's freedom of speech, art, and expression in Baldwin Park speaks otherwise.

Cudos to the _real_ American Patriots who oppose everything these SOS / Minutemen / Whatever sumbags stand for in actual fact. When _real_ American Patriots stand up for equality against such people, _all_ Americans win, including the racists among us who stupidly think they're some how on the side of good.

Author: Fredric L. Rice
Posted: Wednesday June 01, 2005 05:14 AM