http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/05/127832.php

Some SOS Members Identified

SOS Is Up To Something!

SOS has announced that it is coming back to Baldwin Park after having a meeting in Los Vegas with several hundred anti-immigration radicals. From the posts on their website, we can infer that they are planning something sneaky. It is vitally important that people know who these people are, and watch your backs to make sure that they do not attack individuals in the counter protests. There has been talk of sending moles into their organization to identify more of the individuals, and collect organizational plans that they are keeping off their public forums. Until then, here are a few members that have been identified as central leaders in their movement. If anyone has any further information, you can post it here.

Author: 1planet1people
Posted: Monday May 30, 2005 12:36 PM

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DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS

Be careful of what you say in this forum. The SOS group has networked with other groups, and may be working with government agencies like the FBI. It is important that all posts remain non-threatening. From this point forward, it would be wise not to feed the trolls, and to use this as it is intended, to report on updates. Again, I can not stress enough, DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!

We have a legal right to protest, but any threats (even if provoked) are considered assault. If you are identified, you could get in trouble. If you have an update, give it. SOS people will be posting on here in an attempt to get people angry so they will fly off the handle and start saying things that they do not entirely mean. Do not get set up like this.

Author: 1planet1people
Posted: Monday May 30, 2005 01:43 PM

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Copyright

Please cease and desist from use of photographs taken from http://www.saveourstate.org

These photos are privately owned and not in the public domain.

http://www.chillingeffects.org/

Author: Save Our State
Link: www.saveourstate.org/
Posted: Monday May 30, 2005 02:22 PM

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Fair Use Exemption

Please Read News Media Exemption in Fair Use Laws: When a copyright holder sues a user of the work for infringment, one defense that the user may have is the defense of fair use. Under the fair use doctrine, it is not an infringement for one to use the copyrighted works of another in some circumstances. However, it is difficult to define what exactly constitutes fair use because courts consider the defense on a case by case basis, and the analysis of the defense varies with the facts of each case. Although the fair use defense was available for many years, the doctrine was first codified by Congress in the Copyright Act of 1976 in Section 107. Section 107 gives a non-exhaustive list of examples of when the fair use defense could be successful. The list includes criticism, comment, scholarship, research, NEWS REPORTING and teaching as uses that may be fair.

Author: 1Planet1People
Link: www.chillingeffects.org/fairuse/
Posted: Monday May 30, 2005 03:57 PM

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Threats and Intimidation

IndyMedia's use of photographs and monikers of SoS and/or Minuteman Project members is a clear attempt at intimidation. The behavior of your followers is abominable as has been shown at our peaceful rallies. We have been routinely attacked and threatened while excercising our constitutional rights in opposition to open borders, racism, treason and foreign hostility. I assure you that this sort of aggression will not be met with kid gloves any longer. You are opening the door to open confrontation if you animals continue down the road you are on. We will never cast the first stone but rest assured, any attack on our peaceful demonstrations will be met with proportional retaliation. And yes, we have our own moles amongst you. We are watching everything you do.

You've been warned.

Author: Hellfire USA
Posted: Tuesday May 31, 2005 02:04 AM

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No Copyright Claims

Pictures are found on multiple public accessible web forums, including Save Our State and AIL-PAC

( http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-4057.html ).

Further, indymeida is a news organization, and pictures posted have been done so in a news format. 1Planet1People, your citation is correct, as there are no copyright infringements at this time.

Author: Anonymous Lawyer
Posted: Tuesday May 31, 2005 04:01 AM

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what is the point?

Since nothing can be legally done to these fellows except boo them at rallies, what is the point of running their pictures? Especially in view of the fact that none of them are particularly unusual looking, and could easily be confused with someone else.

Author: Meyer London
Posted: Tuesday May 31, 2005 04:02 AM

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I know him

I know who that one inch guy is, he lives a couple of streets over from me.

Author: Anonymous
Posted: Tuesday May 31, 2005 05:38 AM

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not really

http://michiganimc.org/mod/comments/display/5235/index.php

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1inchgroup Posted: May 31 2005, 01:27 PM

Patriot

Group: Members
Posts: 884
Member No.: 31
Joined: 3-December 04

Profile:1planet1people

Graduated from Central Michigan University in 2001
Now lives in So. Cal.

Likely participant in hunger strikes protesting against the evil Taco Bell while at Central Michigan University.

1planet1people. You are spread out in a lot of places. Keep pushing this . . . and you may reap what you sow. I found your college and your current residence listed during a 5 minute search on some interesting sites.

Your writing style is distinctive, and could be easily compared to various posts and pages going back a few years. The information contained in those posts and pages will identify you.

You want that? Play nice or it's going to get hot in here.

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Is this a threat? You are wrong by the way, I really graduated in 19XX, and it was not from CMU (hehe). Do you really think I am going to post correct info in publications like this when I am a media activist working against Bush's war machine. They have much better resources than you do. I publish to inform and inspire. This means that when Bush spoke at Calvin College not to long ago, I became an alumni there as well, saying the same thing.

Opps, I am feeding the trolls.....sorry, that is not a good thing to do.

Author: 1Planet1People
Posted: Tuesday May 31, 2005 07:24 AM

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That seditious "monument" WILL be torn down!

Fools.

Do ou really think you AZTLOAFS stand a chance?

The seditious arch WILL come down.

We hope for a large turnout of multicultural scumbag leftist welfare trash.

Our cameras are rolling all the time (most of them you'd never know were there) to catch which ones of you are inciting your unruly mob to throw bottles and riot.

Your feeble resistance to justice and American way WILL be crushed. A HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Spirit of SOS

Author: FBI Troll
Posted: Tuesday May 31, 2005 07:41 AM

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Fair Use Exemption

But of course once you receive the C&D letter you will have to remove the objectionable material pending determination that you have the right to use it.

And of course you know that posting someone's name without their permisson is a violation of California privacy law and you will be subjected to a fine.

Author: Save Our State
Posted: Tuesday May 31, 2005 10:05 AM

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Indymedia is an open publishing site

LA-IMC is an open publishing forum. LA-IMC is not responsible for the content of any material posted to the site. Like any web blog, LA-IMC is not responsible for protecting the copyrights of any material posted on the site nor does it claim any rights to the material posted. Those posting to the site are responsible for obtaining clearance for any works or derivative works posted to the site.

Author: LA-IMC Member
Posted: Tuesday May 31, 2005 02:53 PM

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Just Ask..

If you guys really want to see who we are and what we look like, c'mon over to the site (I think you know the address) and ask for our photos.

I am sure I can supply you with better photos than these. They're all blurry looking.

Remember, we're not the ones standing with ski masks on, or flags covering our faces, or riot helmets on...we're out there waving flags for anyone to photograph.

Just ask...We're not afraid of you seeing what we look like.

Author: Save Our State
Posted: Tuesday May 31, 2005 03:03 PM

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Please Post

Please post photos of all your members on your (or this) website. We would love to know who we are watching for when we're watching our backs. Thank you 1Planet for informing us of who we are protesting. These 'public figures' are good to know.

Author: A Fly
Posted: Tuesday May 31, 2005 04:34 PM

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It is not even the same guy

It is not even the same guy in all the pictures. The one shooting the gun is an ad.

Author: Liz
Posted: Tuesday May 31, 2005 10:49 PM

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You are helping Bush

"am a media activist working against Bush's war"

The immigration reform movement is anti Bush. You are fighting the wrong enemy. Which of course Bush loves you for. Dumb.

Author: Liz
Posted: Tuesday May 31, 2005 10:52 PM

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Radicals

Oh my god! American citizens exercising their right to free speech. What's this country coming to? Don't they know that only Pre-Aproved thoughts and ideas can be shared? Check with the ACLU, I'm sure this isn't allowed. At least not in MY Amerika. All white guys too, so you know their racist, sexist, bigoted homophobes. Lets spread as many lies as we can about these people.

Fidel Castro thanks you.

Robert Jones
(Proud Save our State Member)

Author: Robert Jones
Posted: Wednesday June 01, 2005 05:32 AM

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Trolls Ignored

Everyone is doing well. You see their anger and hatred, trying to draw people into fights. Soon, they will likely pretend to be against the SOS, and argue with themselves. It is important to continue to ignore them. If you watch the video, what you will find is these are violent people that try to draw people into an angry frenzy, then they turn around and paint the people as the bad group. The KKK has been doing this for years. They know that the art will not come down; they know they are going to be out numbered. Joe and the SOS group wants the attention, he wants other close-minded racists to pity him and his group. He is a media junky who is going to risk the safety of the people in his group just so he can get another three minutes of fame on Fox News. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if they were sending people into our protests to throw bottles at themselves, just so they can say, "poor me". Just let them flame themselves and ignore everything they post. If you could talk sense into this type of people, the KKK would have died out decades ago.

Further, any pictures people have of these individuals should be posted here. Their personal information is not important and should not be posted, this is NOT to intimidate them; it is to protect us. If everyone knows who they are, they cannot come over to our side, do illegal activity, and blame it on us. If their side does not get hurt, they lose, and they do not want that. We must protect ourselves from their hate. That is why a celebration of the people may be a better idea.

Video From BP1

http://sparcmurals.org/downloads/vid/Part3.wmv

Author: 1Planet1People
Link: www.sparcmurals.org/sparcone/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=209&It...
Posted: Wednesday June 01, 2005 06:55 AM

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Ignore this post

Everyone is doing well. You see their anger and hatred, trying to draw people into fights.

Bottle throwing, bandana wearing leftist thugs holding Mexican flags. Who are the angry ones again? Oh, that’s right, they were edited out of this video.

Soon, they will likely pretend to be against the SOS, and argue with themselves.

Huh?

If you watch the video, what you will find is these are violent people that try to draw people into an angry frenzy, then they turn around and paint the people as the bad group.

You rabble are self-rousing sheep, so don't give US the credit you so richly deserve. You sure you’re watching the same video? The only injury was to an SOS member by some bottle-hurling coward.

They know that the art will not come down; they know they are going to be out numbered.

Sounds like whistling past the graveyard to me. That arch will be coming down as long as this is a nation of laws, and we’ll be sure to capture the “carnicerians” rioting right afterward.

Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if they were sending people into our protests to throw bottles at themselves, just so they can say, "poor me".

Poor Anti-American leftists. Tinfoil hats are cheap. There are spies among you, but they only need to document the obvious. You shoot yourselves in the foot without any help.

VIVA SOS! VIVA LA MIGRA!

Author: Liger Howardson
Posted: Wednesday June 01, 2005 09:09 AM

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troll wars?

This is an interesting phenomenon -- online troll wars mutating into real-life troll wars.

Author: johnk
Posted: Wednesday June 01, 2005 03:57 PM